The Real timschochet

The think the point is that nobody would mock Trump over being shot at. Because most people have a sense of decency.

Not to mention the MAGA dude in Pittsburgh who shot up all the Jews because of the Great Replacement theory. Or the MAGA dude in El Paso who murdered all the Hispanics because of Trump’s anti-immigration rhetoric. Or all the death threats that Haitian Americans have received in the last week. Let’s be clear: by far the biggest inciter of violence in this country is Donald Trump. It’s not even a close call. He has created this era of division and hatred that we are currently in, and it will last until he is finally defeated in the election.

And here.

This is why the MAGA folks have no credibility. Right here.

You’re right that he’s a moron but I’m not really arguing with him so much as I’m organizing my own thoughts.

So I have a question for those that know guns better than I do (which is probably most of you): They said he was 500 yards away from Trump with an AR-15. At what range would an average guy be able to hit someone with that weapon? 100 yards? 200 yards? More? Or do you have to be a trained sniper to be accurate from 100 yards or more?

In the Dead Zone, Stephen King’s hero (and alter-ego) John Smith is a psychic and dying of a brain tumor. He learns through his psychic powers that a politician named Greg Stillson (with many similarities to Trump which is creepy because this book was written in 1979) will someday be President, become a dictator and bring on a nuclear war. Faced with that dilemma Smith decides to assassinate Stillson. It was a thought experiment by King and an attempt in fiction to justify an assassin. But we don’t live in a fictional world. Here there are no psychics that can tell us for sure what happens next. Here there is no justification for assassination of an American politician.

You know I was thinking today of the novel The Dead Zone by Stephen King. Have you read it?

Of course it could because anyone can take what anyone says and turn it into something it’s not. That doesn’t make it incendiary.

I’d have to dig for it, but yes. I’ve always been troubled by that particular accusation against Trump and have said so. He did, IMO, break the law and committed treason with regard to the 2020 election, but that has to do with his attempts to subvert the electoral process. He also may have acted either incompetently or with deliberate bad faith once the riot started- I’m pretty sure it’s one or the other, but not sure which. For that alone he deserves condemnation and he should never be President again. But did he actually incite violence? Not in my opinion. I’ve read that speech he gave at the Ellipse many times. He used the words “peaceful protests.” He didn’t call for violence- that time anyhow. I have expressed this thought more than once over the last 4 years in various posts. I wouldn’t have the vaguest idea how to find it. At other times I thought that he did incite violence on that day and wrote it but then changed my mind later on. So you can take my word for this or not, your choice.

More than one thing can be true at the same time. I believe that Donald Trump is a wanna be dictator. I think he poses a unique threat to our democracy. I think if he were elected we would survive it; nonetheless it IS a threat IMO. I don’t think that is hyperbole at all. The way to defeat the threat of Donald Trump is for Kamala Harris to win the election. Any violence against Trump or anyone else is madness and needs to be condemned by everyone as it has been.

I strongly disagree with this. I hope that most people reject this.

Allow me to answer for myself rather than grouping me in with people who you call “lefties”. 1. I was uncomfortable with Trump’s rhetoric on January 6. But I don’t think it rose to the level of calling for violence. That being said, I do believe he has called for violence on other occasions and deserves to be condemned for it. But to answer your question: no it was not a clear sign, at least not to me. 2. Yes that is my reading of Jeffries. 3. I don’t know what a “pseud” is. I can’t speak for anyone but myself. I don’t believe Hakeem Jeffries’ statement here was in any way incendiary. 4. You are apparently finding contradictions that don’t really exist. I can’t change that but I can honestly tell you what I’m thinking which I’ve done here .

OK. I repeat: MAGA are extremists and need to be stopped. At the polling booth. That’s my firm belief, feel free to think as you wish.

But Trump is a threat to our democracy.

No he’s not. He wrote nothing wrong there.

But there ARE extreme MAGA Republicans and we must stop them. (By defeating them in elections of course.)

Yeah I already responded to this. Again it’s another falsehood and they know it. (To be fear however the Democrats also use the COVID year of 2020 to make economic comparisons which make Trump’s time in office look worse.)

But again that doesn’t make Trump’s comment about any more true. This isn’t a court of law. We know what Trump meant when he talked about late term abortions and it was a made up lie and deserved to be corrected. We know what Harris meant when she talked about combat and it was not really a lie and did not deserve to be corrected. And really none of this matters anyhow: Trump lost the debate, badly, because he came off as crazy and unhinged, which he is, and Harris came off as smart and ready, which she is. Your continual personal insults mean nothing to me. I don’t choose to reciprocate. But I don’t think they make you look good.

The bullets were nowhere close to Trump, apparently. They caught the guy. It sounds to me like the security worked.

I’m sorry you don’t understand the difference and why it would have been incorrect to fact check this, and why it WAS correct to fact check Trump.

FBI says that it did appear to be an assassination attempt. The shooter is in custody.

It’s close enough to what she meant. The reason that they corrected Trump twice is because he made up stories: first that Democrats are aborting babies after they’re born, and second that Haitian immigrants are eating dogs and cats in Springfield, Ohio. These are completely concocted lies, they’re not misstatements or shading the truth which all politicians tend to do. I sense your anger and name calling of me stems from your frustration as you may be recognizing how this election is going. It’s kind of childish.

Not really. Are they in active combat?

This whole “we gave the questions in advance to the candidate” is always one of the stupidest conspiracies out there. There wasn’t a single surprising question. There wasn’t a single one that wasn’t predicted before hand. So stupid.