The Real timschochet

lol there will be millions of white men who vote for Harris and Walz. And after she wins there will be millions more who said they did. Because in a few years from now it will be an embarrassment for anyone to admit that they voted for Donald Trump (actually it already is.)

I wasn’t referring to him. I was referring to his daughter.

Democrats don’t make the first argument you posted.

Liz isn’t changing any votes from Trump to Harris; that’s true. But I do think she might cause a few conservatives who can’t stand Trump but we’re going to simply refuse to vote to vote for Harris instead.

Lots of Steelers fans here in downtown Pittsburgh but also a lot of Cowboy fans walking around. Just visited the Andy Warhol museum and it was crowded with both. One main impression I am getting from my visits this week to Philadelphia and Pittsburgh: people here are sick to death of this election. Trump and Harris are everywhere, you can’t escape it. I imagine the folks here are probably proud of the fact that in all likelihood they get to decide this thing for the rest of us but I also think they’ll be happy when it’s finally over.

Very good interview here with a pair of posters, one Republican one Democrat: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/10/05/what-the-polls-are-really-saying-00182588 They go inside the numbers with good and bad news for both parties. The consensus seems to be that Harris is going to win, but that Republicans will win the Senate to keep her in check. I think that’s right.

I have no idea where you’re getting that number from. But I’m telling you that even if such programs are out there most undocumented immigrants don’t access them.

MSNBC has opinion shows and it has news shows. I enjoy watching both. The news reported can be trusted. The opinion offered is just that.

Anybody who goes to vote has to give their name and address which is checked off against a list of registered voters. Thats all we need. Requiring further ID is bogus. It’s a deliberate attempt to keep certain people (of a darker shade of skin color) from voting. That’s the only reason. There is no voter fraud. It’s a bullcrap issue.

Who cares?

I really don’t care if you give a fuk about it or not, (though if you don’t I’m sad for you.) Forcibly separating families in order to scare people from coming here is wrong. It’s objectively evil, and nothing you write can ever justify it.

So much ignorance, stupidity, intolerance, bigotry and hatred around here. Really sad to read. You guys need to get out in the real world sometime.

You’re just ignorant. Sorry.

I deny it. For the vast majority of undocumented immigrants (there are no such thing as “illegals”) it’s total bullcrap.

I strongly disagree with you on both points. On the first point these people weren’t separated out of any humanity- just the opposite. It was deliberate cruelty designed to make people afraid to come here. Completely wretched and unamerican. Watch the movie. Second, law enforcement doesn’t “round up” anyone. They arrest individuals who have committed crimes. They don’t arrest whole groups of people. That’s the tactic of dictatorships not this country. Enjoy your day in the high country. I am off to Pittsburgh to see the Steelers.

@jerryskids I actually agree with the CATO opinion piece you linked, and disagree with Walz on the question of restricting free speech- in terms of general principles. Nonetheless I regard your statement that Walz is a threat to the 1st Amendment as an exaggeration. There ARE specific instances where it might be OK to curtail speech, as Oliver Wendell Holmes famously pointed out. This is a complicated issue IMO with lots of nuances. I don’t fear Walz or any Democrat as a threat to democracy. I DO think Trump is somewhat of a threat to democracy- not quite at the level some liberals do but a threat nonetheless. But that’s a different issue.

Listen I really don’t care what we call these people so long as we don’t return to Trump’s policies. There’s a new film coming out about how awful they were the first time around; this time they will be worse. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt33029968/ I get that undocumented immigration worries people. I get that a lot of folks are scared about the costs, that it’s out of control, etc. But separating families? Rounding up millions of people? Is that truly who we are? I hope not.

Maybe pull the fork back out? https://fortune.com/2024/10/03/kamala-harris-trump-latest-polls-swing-states/

I have a huge problem with undocumented immigrants or anyone else committing rape. I simply don’t agree with what you and others propose to do to rectify the situation.

I would not. But there are a variety of reasons one could be a refugee. Ask Tom Petty.

And Trump sees you as a useless one.

Hey I’m sure glad I wasn’t insulted. And corrected by whom? By conservatives who want to deport all migrants legal or illegal? Don’t make me laugh.

I didn’t inject myself. You did when you expressed the desire that my daughters be raped. It wasn’t years ago either. It was this year. @Sean Mooney is exactly right about this.

Well not exactly because as I pointed out refugees are not undocumented immigrants but they do arrive at the border and so are included in border encounter statistics.

It’s exactly true.