The Real timschochet

So much for all the conspiracy theories about the Obamas. Didn’t Trump’s spokesman Cheung try to use Obama’s silence as part of the excuse to avoid committing to the debate?

This won’t fly either. You guys are an echo chamber, convincing each other of this crap. But it’s not enough. The rest of the public won’t care about this stuff.

A good reason has been offered as to why Trump might be playing games with the debate- because unless the judge agrees to dismiss the case or change the date, he’s going to be sentenced in New York on Sept. 18. The date of the debate is Sept. 10. He doesn’t want that contrast.

What you’re describing is how the Trump team is trying to define her. My feeling is they won’t succeed. The thing you don’t realize is that most of the public has never really been exposed to her and her performance in the last week has been positively electric. I keep telling you it’s a whole new ball game and you don’t want to accept it. The other problem you have with calling her far left is that it’s been a Republican strategy used against 100% of Democratic candidates for the last 80 years. Kerry, Obama, Hillary, Biden, Kamala:”you can’t vote for them; they’re too far left; they’re a Communist”. The public is immune to it; they don’t care.

That article doesn’t help your cause much.

1. I never suggested anything of the sort. 2. You’re arguing with yourself not me. 3. It wasn’t distance that lost the war for us in both Vietnam and Afghanistan, it was that it’s very difficult, almost impossible, to defeat a guerilla enemy that hides among a population that doesn’t like you. I can offer other, closer examples: Britain and Ireland, France and Algeria. Israel can’t win in Gaza.

Who appointed Christopher Wray?

Of course they expect to win.

The reason that Israel needs to stand down is that they’re less safe if they don’t. They shouldn’t stand down to save the Palestinians, they should stand down to save Israel. They can’t win this war, anymore that we could win the Vietnam War or Afghanistan.

Not anymore. It’s gone.

I just have this weird feeling that even after The delegates choose Kamala (unanimously I would guess) Trump will argue that the whole process was illegitimate (he’s already saying this) and that therefore he can’t debate her because there is no official candidate for the Democrats. And when he loses the election this will be his excuse as to how the election was stolen from him.

I sure hope so. I really want to see them debate as she will wipe the floor with him. But he seems to be looking for a way out…

Trump appears to be looking for any way out of debating Kamala: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4793807-donald-trump-kamala-harris-debate/amp/

Lol you guys are like a broken record. Let’s suppose everything you say here was true- it’s not, almost none of it is, but for the sake of argument: 1. Kamala is still highly preferable to Trump on this issue. You know why? Because she’s not racist, and she’s never going to try to deport 15 million people and totally fock up our economy. Even if she were completely incompetent and completely responsible for everything bad that’s happened she’s still better than Trump. About 1000 times. 2. The mainstream media is still the best, and frankly only reliable source of news there is. Right wing media lies to you all the time- worst example is that Trump won in 2020, but there are hundreds of others. The MSM isn’t perfect but without him you would have nothing at all.

It’s not that I don’t grasp it, it’s that it’s a silly claim. The press got it wrong before, now they’re getting it right. That’s not unusual when they pay more attention to an issue or person.

No he asked her to investigate the root causes of immigration from the Northern Triangle. She had no authority to take any action.

Yeah, to the extent that those polls are significant at all they show that she has already improved on Biden, and that’s with most of the data taken before the public has really heard her. So for Harris fans it’s terrific news. The only place that she falls outside the margin of error is Arizona, and then only by a point or two. That’s easily fixable if she decides to choose Mark Kelly.

Man you guys are terrified. As you should be. She’s going to win.

Yes. And he made mistakes. And they’re worth discussing.

You should have written Taylor Swift- that would be more apt.

No. We discussed this in the other thread. They may have called her the “border czar”, because they lazily took up what conservatives were calling her, but she never was a border czar. And in any case it’s a side issue and completely irrelevant. If you want to discuss Kamala’s actions or decisions regarding the border, where she had no power ever to do anything, go ahead. Better yet, let’s examine her ideas for the border now and compare them to Trump’s ideas, which include the forced mass deportation of up to 15 million people. Let’s put it out there and let the public decide who has the better ideas.

Lol no I certainly didn’t. I never said Hillary was a great speaker. In fact she was an awful speaker.

I’m trying not to be too giddy here…but another great statement by Kamala, this time on Israel. Somehow she has managed to to the near impossible: I think she is going to gain back almost all of the Muslim vote that Biden lost without losing any Jewish support. Amazing.

I think it’s worth taking note of because I never believed the whole Blacks for Trump thing anyhow. The rest of the poll, showing Trump ahead by 3, can be dismissed except for the fact that Kamala is already doing better than Biden and people don’t know much about her yet. But I stand by my two premises: first that we will know a lot more in 2 weeks, and second, what we will learn at that time will be very good for Kamala and very bad for Trump. If I am wrong I will certainly acknowledge it here.

I agree with your points. They are all factors. But I don’t agree that they should be put ahead of climate change. IMO that is the deciding factor, and has a profound effect on several of the issues you cite.