The Real timschochet

Im going to be at the Huntington Beach Pier today. Now the last time there was a large gathering at the Pier it was a vigil immediately following Charlie Kirk’s murder. Unfortunately things got ugly because a group of Neo-Nazi skinheads showed up holding signs blaming blacks, Jews and undocumented immigrants for what happened to Kirk and attacking the police and peaceful bystanders. “White men fight back”. https://beachgrit.com/2025/09/white-men-fight-back-protests-erupt-in-huntington-beach-in-wake-of-charlie-kirk-murder/ But that was a right wing gathering. Hopefully none of these idiots show up today.

Well the last “No Kings” protest was 99.5% nonviolent: https://wagingnonviolence.org/2025/08/new-data-shows-no-kings-was-one-of-the-largest-days-of-protest-in-us-history/ when you have this many people protesting in so many cities there’s always going to be a few isolated incidents. But if you’re expecting a repeat of the George Floyd riots (not to be confused with the George Floyd peaceful protests) or 1/6/21, not gonna happen.

If there is burning and looting or violent activity today or tonight by protestors I will come here and admit that I was wrong about what would happen. If none of that occurs will you admit that you were wrong?

I should have learned a long time ago that it’s pointless to argue with you. When one attempts to break down how terribly wrong you are your only response is to double down. Oh well. I think that what actually happens today will destroy your arguments in real time. I hope you’re man enough to at least admit it after the fact. Not holding my breath though.

If there is any violence today at all it will be from ICE, along with possible individual MAGA types trying to provoke a response. Hopefully we won’t give them one. Martin Luther King, Jr., when leading nonviolent protests, always warned about this sort of thing. Back then the southern racists like George Wallace made the exact same arguments @EternalShinyAndChrome is making now: that the civil rights protestors were all leftists who hated America and wanted violence. The rhetoric was eerily similar. Then they would try to provoke that violence.

OK. You and others have made this argument before (conflating opponents of Trump, which is a combination of liberals, moderates, independents and even some conservatives ac “leftists”, conflating American progressives and Black Lives Matter with Antifa, conflating all of it with violence and terrorism.) I’ve never been sure how much of it is trolling and how much of it is seriously believed which is why I asked. It’s false, dangerous, and stupid.

Are you seriously expecting violence today?

Lakers are already without LeBron tonight. ….and they’re playing the Sacramento Kings!

So the local protest is between 11:30 and 2. I have cleared my schedule and taking my family and a few friends.

Yes I will be taking part in a local protest. Not sure for how long because I have an important meeting that day. But at some point I will be there. In addition I gave extra monies to the ACLU this month to help organize. (I always give them money but this time a little more.)

Here are some modest proposals: 1. Stop arresting and detaining and deporting non-violent people. If they have no papers find a way to allow them to stay. 2. Stop demonizing trans people, especially young trans people. Their lives are hard enough as it is. Leave them alone. 3. Stop demonizing Muslim- Americans. They are no different from you. Let them live their lives. 4. Stop cheering for judicial lawfare. Force Trump to obey the law like all Presidents before him. Do these things and we’ll have no reason to protest.

Again the irony here is incredible. Why are we protesting? Because Trump and his supporters are targeting innocent people as the source of America’s problems. When you guys stop, the protests will stop.

And I would like you to reconsider your fear of undocumented immigrants, trans, Muslims. Unlike you I am not suggesting therapy to help with this. Just reconsider.

True but not the next time around. It’s never too late to come over to the right side. I welcome all of these folks and all MAGA folks too who have changed their minds. Never too late.

I’m glad you’re concerned about me. Does show a little empathy on your part, contradicting my last statement. You needn’t be worried though.

It suddenly occurs to me with this post and that of @supermike80 is that once again I am running into the typical MAGA lack of empathy for others. You guys seem to lack comprehension that someone can be doing fine themselves but be worried about other people. Therefore he must be lying or ill or giving into “liberal guilt”. I feel sad for you guys that you think this way.

I disagree with you because sometimes, not always, not always, public protests do lead to positive change. In the 1960s people peacefully protested against segregation, against the Vietnam War, for woman’s rights, for gay rights. And all of these protests were ultimately successful. We know that a majority of Americans now think Trump’s actions are awful per polling. So I am hoping that this latest protest will have a positive, meaningful effect. Of course I have no idea, you may be right: But I’m an optimist.

Lol dude I’m not personally scared. I’m white, in a good income bracket. I’m financially secure and I live in the greatest state. My family is healthy (knock on wood) and in my personal life things have never been better. I just love my country and hate to see this guy screw it up. The good news is we can and will repair most of the damage,

@supermike80we live in a time where innocent people, including hundreds of American citizens, are grabbed off the street and violently attacked by government forces. Where the Department of Justice for the first time in this country’s history is going after the President’s perceived enemies with false trumped up charges. Wake the Fock up already.

What’s funny about this is my views are pretty mild compared to some including a majority of people here. President Trump is the fearmongerer. He’s the one that says that undocumented immigrants and trans people and Muslims are all a threat to the rest of us. That’s the crap you buy into. Me I’m just trying to fight against that thinking in my own peaceful way.

OR we truly believe that Donald Trump is a true and unique threat to this country’s democratic institutions, not to be compared to Biden or any other past President.

Though ultimately I disagree with you, I think this is a much stronger argument than “This is a Hate America rally run by Antifa” which the Republicans are going with, predicting violence, etc. That may seriously backfire.

Not just believing but praising him to no end.

Stop killing civilians or we’ll bomb the crap out of your civilians! Makes sense.

Trump just now: “If Hamas continues to kill people in Gaza, which was not the Deal, we will have no choice but to go in and kill them!” https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115385030312911724 First question of many: who is “we”?