The Real timschochet

And you have been manipulated as well. It seems impossible that you have never seen Trump say what he wants to do. I simply don’t get it. Since you asked here are some direct quotes by Donald Trump regarding his desire to jail his enemies: “Democrats need to start being indicted!” ”Alvin Bragg must be put in prison!” “Letitia James and Arthur Engoron must be placed under citizens arrest!” “Jack Smith must be locked up and throw away the key!” All of those are Truth Social quotes. They’ve been all over the news. Yet somehow you’ve never seen any of them, right? How is that possible? And how the fock can you or anyone else claim that this guy isn’t a threat to our democracy. Again he wants to IMPRISON all of his enemies!!! I can easily produce direct quotes for all the other stuff I mentioned- his desire to have the military and police be loyal to him with unlimited power, his plans to curtail the freedom of the press and judges, his desire to abrogate election results he doesn’t like. It’s all on Truth Social and in his speeches. But the real question is how are you unaware of it?

This was a book by journalists, not by opinion makers (like Bill O’ Reilly.) I rarely read books by opinion makers and if I do I expect them to be biased. I don’t expect books from the MSM to be biased because the MSM is not biased, no matter how much you and others insist that it is. Sadly it is YOU who have been manipulated. That book is filled with well documented well sourced reporting and you’re rejecting it out of hand, which Donald Trump wants you to do.

He’s not trying to debate me. He’s attacking the source without bothering to read it. Nothing will convince him- or you. That’s the problem when you guys no longer trust the MSM. There is no source of news that I can offer you that you will accept. Your last sentence is incorrect. I don’t wonder why people engage me the way they do. I know why they do it in most cases. In your case it’s because you’re an idiot.

You know I started to do this but I realized that all you’ll do is question the sources, call them liars, try to parse the statements to mean something they don’t, etc. It’s a waste of time. If you’re truly interested this stuff is easily accessible all over the internet.

If you had bothered to read the book you would know that it completely relies on interviews with people who worked in the Trump White House.

Once again you’re making sh!t up like the liar and fool you are.

Not sure what evidence I can provide beyond the book I named and his public statements. You dismiss them anyhow because you wish to remain ignorant on this subject.

First off let me refute your third sentence. During the 4 years that Donald Trump was President he was absolutely a threat to democracy, but was consistently prevented from achieving his aims by the guardrails in place, men like John Kelly, James Mattis, Mark Milley, and others. None of these people will be there this time around. It would take me too long to describe all the ways these men saved this nation from Donald Trump and what it would have been like if they hadn’t been around, but if you want details please read the book The Divider which describes everything in full. To answer your question more specifically : Donald Trump wants to emulate his hero Viktor Orban, who took over a democratic republic and has converted it to an autocracy. Orban has accomplished this feat by jailing his opponents, heavily restricting the freedom of the press, increasing the power of police and military and demanding that these forces serve him rather than the nation, controlling the judicial system, and severely limiting voting and elections. Donald Trump has publicly spoken out in favor of all of these moves and seeks to do them all himself. Whether or not he succeeds if elected again is an open question but we know now that he will not be prosecuted for making the effort. Is that specific enough for you?

This is pretty accurate.

Maybe. I’ve had a gun at my head and I didn’t react well. But I don’t hold myself out to be a hero. This worship of a coward like Trump is really nauseating.

Such bullsh!t. Once he knew he was safe, he raised his fist. Big effing deal. I’m glad he’s Ok. But the guy has lived a life of being a huge pu$$y and he still is one. His speech the other night was one big whine fest. Real men take responsibility for their actions. Trump is a life long coward who has always passed the buck and always will.

He never told me that and we had long discussions about it. He asked me to try to hold my temper when people insulted me because when I retaliated that made it worse. And I actually cut down on my posts during the last couple years of the Political forum because I was busy with stuff. But I asked him directly in PMs if he thought I was contributing to the problems there and he said no. Most of what caused the shutdown was the incessant reporting. I rarely did that. The other problem were the MAGA people who deliberately trolled and insulted everyone and sought to shut things down. They’re the ones truly at fault IMO.

Lol such BS.

Very sorry to hear anyone suffer from this. My cousin died of it and it was awful. That being said, I was never a fan. This woman was not very bright IMO. I wouldn’t care except that many times she said things that were so embarrassingly stupid that she hurt some of the causes that I believe in. She also made it a point to be noticed. James Clyburn was on the news this morning laughing about how Lee would position herself at roll calls so that the TV camera always found her. I don’t regard that as especially admirable. But I’m sorry for her family and loved ones.

I also think that Biden may be hanging on here based on a premise which is still viable, which is: despite the polling, despite the doubts about his age and deficiencies, despite the donors, the public has yet to be absolutely confronted with a binary choice between Joe Biden and Donald Trump. And that once they are, once it becomes absolutely clear to everyone finally that these are the two options, there is no alternative, then Biden will win because the public just doesn’t want a return of Donald Trump. This is a tremendous gamble and if it doesn’t work it will not only give us a President Trump, it will destroy Biden’s legacy and he will be remembered not for his accomplishments but for giving this election away (and for those of us who believe that Trump represents an existential threat to this country, for risking democracy for the sake of personal ambition.) And yet…he might be right. I would rather go with Kamala but he might be right.

After listening to AOC this morning I sense the debate is shifting. A few days ago AOC and others were saying “we stand by President Biden and how dare you try to move away from him!” Now it’s become “If Biden quits then Kamala has to be the nominee and how dare you try to suggest anyone else!” I agree that (1) Biden should quit and (2) if he does any choice other than Kamala would create a war within the party that would make Trump’s victory more likely, not less. But I’m honestly not sure Kamala’s succession can be forced. If somebody else throws their hat in the ring there WILL be a contest, no way to stop that.

Thanks for all the recommendations!

The Green New Deal is not supported by the main wing of the Democratic Party. Even us low IQ fockin retards know that. Guess you’re dumber than me.

Perhaps not losing to Trump is what is best for the country? I certainly think so.

Not that particular. Italian is always good. A good steak. Never been a huge Philly cheesesteak fan but maybe the original is good?

Appreciate your concern about my family. Speaking of which my nephew got into Drexel so I’m going to Philadelphia this fall for the first time ever. Any food recommendations?

More love needs to be given to Trump wanting to spend a trillion dollars or so on an “Iron Dome” rocket defense system for the U.S. After all you never know when Montreal is going to get pissed off at us and fire a few shells this way.

I did feel a little sorry for all the old white folks last night that were forced to endure Kid Rock: Man was he bad.

So true. Actually Taylor’s music, particularly since folklore, is more introspective than anything else, very reminiscent of Joni Mitchell for me. But I like what I like. My musical journey has been pretty linear, actually.

Just saw her in Amsterdam (on July 4) and I have to say it was the most amazing concert I’ve ever attended. The energy of the crowd, and her command of the stage, was simply unbelievable. As a young teenager I saw Queen in 1980 and Freddie Mercury was the only guy who comes close to her (though I’m too young for the Beatles).