The Real timschochet

No I think they did their homework quite well actually. Walz today in Los Angeles: “I was proud to serve my country. And I don’t think those in uniform should be critical of others in uniform. So to all those in uniform, including my opponent, I have only one thing to say: thank you for your service and sacrifice.” Standing ovation. Dude is a really fine speaker and that’s part of the reason that this attack is falling on its face. Vance just looks more and more ridiculous everytime he offers it. Nobody is critical of Walz; most people just look at Vance, shake their heads and think “what a jerk.”

Actually the stats don’t make an obvious case at all. But to realize that you need to look a little deeper. What Biden essentially did is reverse Trump’s policies and went back to what Obama did- in other words, catch and release, no remain in Mexico policy. And the numbers exploded, which would lead you to believe that Trump’s policies were much more effective, right? Wrong. Because if this was true then the numbers under Obama should have been the same as they were under Biden, and far more than they were under Trump. But that’s not the case; actually the numbers under Obama were around the same as they were under Trump, perhaps a little less. Which leads us to three conclusions: 1. Trump’s policies had very little effect on border crossings. 2. Biden’s policies had very little effect on border crossings. 3. The increased border crossings during the last 4 years have causes completely unrelated to border security. We’re arguing over the wrong things.

Kamala within striking distance in Florida: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/13/kamala-harris-trump-florida-polls/74770114007/ Unlikely I know but it IS possible, because don’t forget there’s an abortion bill on the ballot that will overturn the 6 week law that DeSantis signed, which is extremely unpopular. Florida in the blue column would make it an early night.

I really have no idea how many people listened to it. But I hope as many people as possible. I wish the entire nation heard it so they can realize what a nutjob Donald Trump truly is.

I like @jerryskids (one of the smarter guys here) but he does have a tendency to be patronizing, like his assumption that because of my background (which he really knows very little about) I know nothing about the “real world” and then follows that up with the assumption that a Vice President of the United States is really no different than how it works in a corporation- which is quite absurd. Our border and immigration issues cannot be solved through executive action anyhow- they require an overhaul of the entire system and that means Congress. And it means addressing man made climate change which has in recent years become the main root of the problem.

Apparently you don’t understand how the Vice President works. In the “real world”

Please don’t agree with him about Biden being “installed” as President by some evil “they”. That didn’t happen, and @HellToupee has been spreading this bullsh!t for years. Now he’s trying to spread new bullsh!t.

Trump is apparently going to use this “coup” thing as a way to argue that the election was bogus after he loses. It appears there are already people here willing to believe this.

OK I just did. What do I win?

1. No I didn’t, and I still don’t. I believe Biden could have made it another 4 years and performed very well. There was an open primary; only one person chose to challenge Biden. Biden won easily. 2. RFK Jr. wasn’t “kneecapped”; the main theme of his campaign is a skepticism for vaccines and a belief in conspiracy theories that is at odds with the beliefs of most Democrats, so he never had a chance of being the Democratic nominee. 3. Because he was elected President and is still competent as President. 4. Nobody hid anything. Biden is older and slower and performed terribly at the debate. Too many Americans saw that and he would not have won the election; he finally became convinced of this fact and chose to quit the race. Thats it. There was nothing secret, no coup. 5. No dirt whatsoever. For about a month after the debate Biden still believed he could weather the storm. Then Nancy Pelosi threatened to go public with her belief that Biden couldn’t win (that’s what she meant by “we can do this the hard way.) That’s when Biden decided to quit rather than be publicly embarrassed by Pelosi’s statement. But it was still his decision. HTH

I don’t have any problem with anyone who avoided serving in the Vietnam War in any way they could, including Trump. More power to them.

Not since around 1990. I did enjoy them though.

I’m not sure that credibility in THIS forum is that great a thing. Just saying.

Lol I heard him (Sirius- POTUS channel) but I didn’t see him.

I heard Frank Luntz talking about 2008 from a Republican perspective; he said that Obama was like “freight train that we could see coming but we didn’t know how to stop. Well, Kamala could be an even bigger freight train than Obama!”

The truth is most people don’t care. Donald Trump is no longer the center of gravity in this campaign. That baton has been passed to Kamala. She’s the future; Trump is just an insignificant old man standing in her way- temporarily. Very soon the voters will push him aside.

I’ve noticed that you seem to have an equal number of critics from both sides of the political spectrum. You and @weepaws are the only two dudes here who have managed this unlikely accomplishment.

No. He said 10% on ALL imports. ALL. Watch it again. Or Google the question.

Also there is a huge difference between “getting tough” and the horrific, bigoted, catastrophic “solutions” you favor.

Her position on ICE has evolved since 2020. Now she knows she needs to compromise with Republicans (the reasonable ones) to get things done.

No idea why you keep doubting this but here is Trump at the debate discussing it: https://youtu.be/VecslyuwXDk?si=y3yZPmlamhDe-lhE

She was tough on this issue as a prosecutor. Her attitude is tough but also smart. She knows that as a nation we need comprehensive immigration reform. Elect her into office, give her a Congress made up of centrist Democrats and rational Republicans and we can and will solve this issue.

Exactly what I wrote. She was assigned to look at the root causes and engage in diplomacy with Guatamala, Honduras, El Salvador, etc. Nothing to do with border security.

What did I get wrong?

Of course there are asylum seekers. And refugees. And people who illegally cross the border. And legal entrants to this country who choose to overstay their welcome (by far these are the largest group of undocumented immigrants who come here.) To enforce the laws we already have requires more money for the ICE and patrol. That is the domain of Congress. It was part of the spending package that Trump ordered killed.