The Real timschochet

Not accusing you in particular but there is a pattern that occurs whenever Trump does or says something truly awful- we are lectured that we are freaks who spend way too much time on politics. Happens every time.

Gotta say I expected the racism and sexism and general ugliness but I expected it to really start a few weeks from now once the polling is even clearer that Kamala has pulled comfortably ahead. But it’s begun early.

Trump’s border policies are indefensible.

About @Hardcore troubadour not being a bigot. I defended him earlier. Looks like a mistake.

The inference is that she is unqualified. Thats what conservatives mean when they use the term. Defend the man all you want. If you think this sort of garbage will fly with the majority of voters, I believe you’re sorely mistaken.

Maybe I was wrong

Turn on the news

Guess we’ll find out in November

Mopping the floor? He’s getting destroyed for this. For Trump to win he has to get votes beyond you guys in the MAGA crowd- he’s not doing it.

Trump support among blacks, whatever it was before today, is going to sink like a stone.

Seriously this is blowing up big time. Horrible for Trump.

Wow, I’m really not sure what Trump was trying to accomplish here. I suppose kudos for entering a hostile atmosphere but a whole lot of his statements were very damaging. No doubt his comments will please his base but he can’t win with his base alone. He questioned whether Kamala is black or Indian- said “somebody should look into it.” Refused to say she wasn’t a DEI hire- ugly stuff.

Trump giving a live interview right now with black reporters. He is just destroying himself.

Good talking to you. Do they perform “Brown Eyed Woman”? (My favorite Dead song.)

Boxer achieved no benefits from living on Animal Farm. You on the other hand achieve major benefits living here. Taxation is part of the price you pay for those benefits, and you don’t get be the only one deciding where those taxes go. But we do live in a free society so if you can get enough people to agree with your position that we should let the “unproductive” die in the streets, then that will become policy. I hope it never comes to that.

Did I read the whole thing? No. I skimmed it and I read the summary. The main reason I link these studies is because these folks are usually smarter than me. Plus they’ve researched the data to back up their arguments and I haven’t. There’s no intention of deceit on my part.

You’re boring me.

It was on a podcast; I listened to it a second time and realized my error. Im done discussing this with you unless you want to have a real discussion of Biden’s policies vs Trump’s. But based on your posts I’m not sure you’re capable of that.

Good job on not reading his posts or the replies. This has nothing to do with government running corporations. We’re trying to have a grown up conversation for once (quite unusual in this forum.) Go back to the kids table.

And as for Afghanistan, Trump was getting ready to pull out and I can almost guarantee it would have been far worse.

Plus what he’s saying is designed for really lazy people like @Reality. Would any thinking person truly believe that Hamas wouldn’t have attacked Israel had Trump been President of the USA? Or that Putin wouldn’t have invaded Ukraine? (Actually I suppose this is possible because Trump would have tried to pressure Ukraine into simply surrendering the land in dispute.) I mean you gotta be a moron to believe this.

Wait- now there are reports that the shooter was tied to an anti-immigrant, anti-Semitic website? https://www.npr.org/2024/07/30/nx-s1-5057323/fbi-trump-shooter Is it possible that, if there was indeed a political motive, this guy shot Trump because Trump wasn’t MAGA enough???

I have no link I heard it on MSNBC. You seem to be more invested in calling the White House liars than in addressing the actual issue. I already acknowledged they lied; what now? Their policy is still preferable to Trump’s. Why don’t you acknowledge that?

This is the reason that I ultimately chose to reject Ayn Rand. Because I don’t want to live in this sort of society.

Well I can’t let your first point go- home buying doesn’t simply benefit one factor of the economy, it benefits ALL factors. It proven to be the key element in promoting economic stability. Second, don’t go quoting Atlas Shrugged to me. By forgiving student loans I’m doing nothing to hamper the Hank Reardons of the world. Also, I take strong issue with your description of these students as idiots with “unproductive educations”. That’s bunk. Plenty of them will achieve much for our society and we should encourage them to do so. Now here is a study from 2021 about how forgiving student loans will boost the economy: https://www.levyinstitute.org/pubs/rpr_2_6.pdf It’s kind of long (68 pages) but it makes the argument that the boost would be between 60 and 100 billion. And that’s just for starters. Many many economists see the value of this.