The Real timschochet

Damn I haven’t heard a Saul Alinsky quote since Hillary’s heyday. You are old school, sir.

Yes. He was referring to you Jon.

Not going to look it up but I recall reading this too.

I don’t know about that. Plenty of these protestors have already been arrested. If they cause violence, trespass, they should be. And punished to the fullest extent of the law. There you see how easy that was? I just condemned violent protestors. I didn’t bring up any other group. I didn’t bring up Trump. I didn’t label it “Brown Boy Summer!” or some other stupidity.

Don’t you have some trannies to get obsessed about?

What so damning about threads like these is not the incident related in the OP, but how so many of you react to it. Why can’t you just condemn it and be done with it? Why look for ways to defend it? Why the need to bring up Joe Biden? Why the urge to attack liberals? This was a stupid, dumb racist act by a couple of frat boys. It doesn’t implicate all white people, or all young people, or all southerners or conservatives. Yet you guys can’t seem to condemn it without pointing the finger at other people.

Trump has already labelled the jury as part of the conspiracy and Hardcore obviously buys into that.

Have you read his posts? Trump isn’t simply a victim. He is the equivalent of a Holocaust victim about to be gassed. All conservatives are on their way to Auschwitz, according to jon.

Imagine you have a very talented football team, but with a terrible head coach (Donald Trump). Due to this coach’s awful decision making, the football team loses its first 6 games. Midway through the season, the coach is fired and replaced by a new coach (Joe Biden). The team rebounds and wins its next 6 games. The final record is 6-6. If a fan argued, “we need to fire Biden because the team ended up 6-6 and we deserve a better record”, we would all think that fan was an idiot, right? But suppose the fan said “not only do we need to fire Biden, we need to rehire Trump” we would all think that fan belonged in a loony bin.

Yes Trump can’t testify, much as he wants to, because the gag order prevents it. Bwahahahahaha

Here’s the key to her testimony, IMO: Despite what your Fox opinion writer wants to believe, Hicks clearly stated that the payment was about the election and not Melania. And that Trump orchestrated it, not Cohen. This destroys Trump’s two defenses. Either Pecker and Hicks are both lying or Trump is. Now there is always the possibility that a sole juror or two will not see it this way, will believe that it COULD have been about Melania, or that Trump MIGHT not have known about it, or buy into the argument made by conservatives daily that this whole trial is a farce designed to keep Trump from returning to the White House. If that happens we will get a hung jury. And many legal experts are actually predicting this outcome, like Dan Abrams. But I believe that the evidence is pretty overwhelming now for a conviction, even without Cohen’s upcoming testimony. So we’ll see.

George Soros is organizing anti-Israeli demonstrations?

They are not.

The travel ban really bothered me. Also the tariffs. But what bothered me most of all was his incompetent reaction to Covid. Just a disaster. Almost all the economic problems we have today are the result of Trump’s idiocy in the year 2020 (not to mention hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths.)

Trump also funded traditional black colleges. And he pardoned the great first black heavyweight champion, Jack Johnson, which should have been done years ago, I am really trying here to give him credit for some stuff…there’s not much out there. On the whole his record was putrid.

Trump deserves credit for criminal justice reform. He didn’t want to do it, he regrets it now, but it was done under his watch so he gets the credit,

And, at the risk of repeating myself: I do not believe that the vast majority of those voting for Trump are racist, I think they are mostly either ignorant of his racism or choose to overlook it because they agree with other aspects of his policies (or at least they think they do.)

Good questions: 1. Yes people can make racist comments without being racist. Especially if the comments weren’t deliberately meant to be racist. This is especially true of older people in this country. In addition to this point, I would add that racism is an attitude and not a permanent description of anyone. My liberal nature (your description, not mine) makes me very forgiving of everyone. That includes Trump, BTW. 2. The crime bill, which was supported at the time by the Congressional Black Caucus, was not intended to be racist. Whether it worked or not is a separate question. I would say overall it did not, though certain aspects, like the ban on assault rifles, was effective while it lasted.

Biden has made racist comments in the past. Some of them have been really ignorant. But I don’t think he’s a racist. His policies do nothing to promote racism; the exact contrary. Trump on the other hand promotes racism all the time, and racism is a key ingredient of his domestic policy positions. The difference between the two men on this issue is stark.

So Trump claims the gag order won’t allow him to testify? Will anyone outside of his faithful MAGA fans buy this argument?

Yes I’m forced to agree with this.

Once again you’re not making the same argument that Kilroy was making which is what I was responding to. However I will give you points for the Who comment which was smartly done.

You mak a number of ridiculous assumptions in this post, the main one being that “the press may have an agenda”- which was exactly Kilroy’s point that I was disputing in the first place. If you begin with that position it becomes impossible to prove any point to you that requires evidence from reporting. Kilroy’s original claim, towards the start of this thread, was that there were almost NO prosecutions of the Floyd rioters. Thats the bullsh!t part. He didn’t claim that there were simply more Jan 6 prosecutions, or that the sentences were longer. That’s a much more precise argument and while I would have still disputed some of it, I wouldnt have exactly called it a lie. Of course the sentences for Jan 6 were longer. It was a much more serious crime than anything resulting from the George Floyd riots. Jan 6 was an insurrection that attempted to remove our democratic form of government. The Floyd riots were a bunch of stupid thugs taking advantage of peaceful protests. Jan 6 was orchestrated by President Trump and the MAGA movement. The Floyd riots were not organized by anyone; there is no connection between those thugs and BLM or any of the peaceful protestors. The comparison between the two events is and has always been absurd. So to conclude: you misrepresented Kilroy’s argument in order to make it more coherent, added a few ridiculous assertions of your own, all in an effort to show how “full of it” I am and allow your buddies here the chance to read this post and chuckle at how Timmy was bested again? Well done. Except it’s been a total fail. I hope for your clients sakes you fare better in the courtroom.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/01/politics/house-vote-antisemitism-awareness-act The other day @Cdub100 accused me of trying to get him shut up. But that’s not the case. If he wants to anti-Semitic he has every right to be that way, I wanted him called out for it, but never censored. This House bill is awful. People have the right to be anti-Semitic . They have the right to be anti-Israel which is not the same thing. Politicians seem to have no respect for freedom of speech.

Thank you. I got the number of 60 from MSNBC (Lawrence O”Donnell reported it; I don’t know where he got it from.) This article https://apnews.com/article/campus-protest-reader-questions-81fbf68709b4d1406e88f1cebfd99050 says it’s a “relatively low percentage” but uses your figure of 30 for campuses in which arrests have taken place. @Strike behaves like a douchbag. He and @supermike80 love to constantly label me a liar and then demand proof that I’m not,. It gets tiresome.