The Real timschochet

Today’s hero: Pastor Doug Pagett of Minnesota, an evangelical church leader who has formed a coalition of 5,000 churches dedicated to resist ICE raids: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/exclusive-the-churches-fighting-back-against-ice “Faith traditions call upon us to welcome the stranger, protect the vulnerable, and love our neighbors.” Many of the evangelical churches associated with Pagett have deep missionary connections with Africa and Central America.

You’ll just have to wait for it. Key the suspense!

No need to call me names: I didn’t know about the other stuff you’re accusing her of and frankly I don’t care. I’m not taking your word for it though. Maybe she’s corrupt and a terrible person and all of the other stuff you’re accusing her of. No matter she opposes Trump on the extremely important issue (for me) of Sanctuary Cities. I seriously see this as a defining issue of our times and what it means to be an American. I’m not trolling, not joking around here. The fact that she comes from Boston makes it sweeter because Boston’s abolitionists played such a large role defying the federal government during the slavery years and I find tremendous parallels. I know you disagree. I think that, despite your views on this issue, you’re a pretty good dude. I just think you’re misguided here. Best wishes.

They were never illegal to begin with. They committed a crime, a small one, by coming here without papers. So they need to suffer a small punishment and be done with it. But a person can’t be illegal. I know people don’t take me seriously when I write this but too focking bad. Calling groups of people illegal or illegal immigrants is a deliberate means of dehumanizing them. It’s wrong, we should treat it like using the N word.

Just to clarify: does Putin need to do anything at all or should Zelenskyy simply surrender?

No I don’t. I think people who do that should pay a heavy fine. But if they pay that they should not be deported.

I don’t excuse ANY crime, especially violent crime. Anyone who commits a violent crime must be punished and is ultimately responsible for that crime. But that doesn’t mean that we can’t look at the underlying factors and try to change them in order to make it less likely. This what some conservatives never seem to understand.

Gavin didn’t start this, Trump and Texas did. Gavin has no choice. He’s the good guy in this fight.

Don’t you have a Biden touches kids video to post? Off with you.

This is going to backfire on Republicans in a big way. And yes Republicans are absolutely the guilty party here and the public will see that.

No idea what your point is here. Most people who live in poverty don’t commit crimes. Even less commit violent crimes. If your family are part of the majority, great. But crime and especially violent crime, while always uncommon, are nonetheless more prevalent among poorer people. This isn’t rocket science. And even MORE prevalent among people who have suffered forced inequity in society due to institutional bigotry.

Whatever stuff was given was chicken feed compared to the stuff they lack form institutional racism. And it was never enough to provide them equal opportunities in our society.

Should I drive through Appalachia? Mississippi? Alabama? Crime is a result of poverty. Not of race. Bigots like Trump will never accept this. And you support him.

It IS true that big cities in this country are mostly Democratic. This is because big cities are filled with minorities and minorities choose liberals to govern them mostly, because conservatives have been historically reluctant to do anything about racism (and sometimes even elect racist politicians like Donald Trump or Woodrow Wilson.) This was true before the Civil Rights era when conservatives were mostly Democrats, and still true today when they are almost all Republicans.

OK what about Democrat run cities? Are you going to make the false assumption that they’re worse on crime because of Demxoratic policies? Because it’s a lie: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2025/01/whos-softer-on-crime-democrats-or-republicans/

Hey don’t leave it to others. You got some racist crap about black people and crime to tell me, do it yourself. Spell it out big guy.

This sounds oddly like Joe Biden’s infamous remark.

And I’m telling you that if DC was run by Republicans and wasn’t full of black people Trump would have chosen somewhere else, capital or no. This is about politics and race first, crime second.

Well in that case I’m still not wrong because HT claimed millions (which is based on Kristi Noem’s false claim, and there is nothing to back that up. And you admit here that you will quote the Times when it says things you want to hear but continue to reject them when it doesn’t. How convenient for you. I wish I could do the same but unfortunately I try to be honest with myself.

Your interpretation of those stats differs from mine for the reasons I just stated which you failed to respond to.

1. Still not millions of people as HT claimed. 2. Tell you what Strike: I will gladly admit I was wrong about this and you are right, IF from now on you will continue to accept the New York Times as an objective source of facts, as you did here. Do we have a deal?

Yes there actually IS a lot of question. Some of the “facts” you’re citing are quite problematic. Let’s take for example the “no murders in 1 week” claim. The problem with that claim is that we know that, per reporting, the National Guard is NOT patrolling most of the areas in which the highest rate of murders take place, choosing instead to concentrate on heavy tourist areas. And the number of regular police hasn’t increased in those high crime areas. So if there are less murders (and I actually think it’s too early to make this assumption) then it’s not because of the National Guard. If it turns out that crime is down because of this move, I’ll be the first to admit it (though I will still argue that choosing a Democratic city filled with minorities vs red cities even more violent with mostly white people, like Mike Johnson’s district, was done for political and frankly racist reasons), but the sample size is as of now a little bit too early.

But that’s the point. Is crime going down and law and order restored? There’s a lot of question about that. These folks say they feel LESS safe, not more.

Well at least this is a more reasonable explanation than “CNN is lying.” But I still think you’re wrong. Despite the fact that these are Democrats, if they truly believed that Trump’s intent was to fight crime and maintain law and order, they would be in support of it.

I’ve noticed Newsom is becoming more and more a target of the extreme right. A good sign.