The Real timschochet

No.

The n word was a long standing societal norm for decades.

Instigating the use of force? No.

No. It wasn’t. I can insist something but I don’t have the right to enforce it.

Fair question. Legally we don’t and should not have the right to insist that you be respectful of others in the way that we would like you to be. For example there should never, IMO, be a law that prohibits you from using the “n” word. But we have developed a society in which using the “n” word is generally considered offensive. I would like to develop a society in which transgenders are given a similar level of respect in terms of what names we used for them. I don’t have the right, ever, to insist that upon you or anyone else, but my goal is that we will get there of our own free will.

I haven’t heard a compelling argument for either but I am a layman, not an attorney. However the Court of Appeals heard both of these motions and quickly denied them.

Uh oh. Pecker just testified that Trump is a micro-manager and paid very close attention to every check that was written. There goes that defense, what else ya got?

I think you got it wrong because Fox News and right wing talk show hosts have repeated a false meme about unequal treatment, not because the mainstream media didn’t report it. It’s true that the MSM focused more on January 6 because that’s what brings the ratings. People want to hear about it because it was a much more novel incident than the Floyd riots (which were only the latest in a long history of racial riots in this country). Jan 6 was something new, and it was based on a President falsely claiming he had been cheated out of an election. So of course people wanted to know a lot about it. The MSM does skew the news but for ratings, not out of poliical ideology.

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But now you’re making a completely different argument. Which is that the media focused on the Jan 6 prosecutions rather than the Floyd riot prosecutions. I agree that they did, but not for the reasons you imply. But will you concede that your original assertion was wrong and that the actual treatment wasn’t unequal?

I think that is the point of this trial. The prosecution will have to make this argument convincingly to the jury or they will not secure a conviction. Let’s see if they can do it.

I didn’t know the answer to this so I looked it up: https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8 Looks like the answer is over 10,000 were arrested, mostly for minor stuff, but a few hundred have been prosecuted by the feds for more serious crime and the average is 27 years. It was pretty easy to find the truth on this. Perhaps you should do so before you repeat tired right wing propaganda.

Biden leads Trump by 9 points among likely voters: https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-leads-donald-trump-poll-actual-voters-2024-presidential-election-1892723 Looks like people are starting to wake up.

Well obviously I condemn that. I don’t, however, condemn students who are peacefully protesting against the actions of the current government of Israel. I think it’s possible to distinguish between the two. Going to a Seder dinner now. Happy Passover!

I just heard a couple of the student organizers on MSNBC. They said they do NOT support Hamas, and that they condemn all anti-semitism. They were celebrating the Seder tonight (Passover.) They are opposed to Netanyahu’s regime but not to Israel. Maybe they are lying for television, who knows? But i suspect this is not as simple as we are being told by some.

Only you would draw a comparison between MAGA and Swifties. Congrats?

I’m getting the sense that, just as with the George Floyd protests of 2020 that were very different from the riots that also occurred, we are not getting the full story here. There are many Jewish students involved in these protests, which are peaceful and not anti-Semitic. And then there are other groups going around spreading hate and violence. Typically conservatives will never distinguish between the two groups (it doesn’t serve them to do so) but thoughtful people should.

Yes I am a Nazi because I believe Trump should be prosecuted for election fraud (among other things.) Have you any idea how focking crazy you sound? Even to the other Trump supporters around here?

Election fraud.

Sure. I could repeat your arguments. Donald Trump, with regard to this and the other court cases, is certainly not being treated equally. He is receiving privileges that no other American would ever get. He should be in jail right now for contempt.

Because I have constantly condemned Hamas here and their supporters and constantly denounced anti-semitism from the left and right. Yet you and other idiots ignore that and accuse me anyway. You’re either dumb or dishonest. So I don’t see the point of discussing it further in a thread about Trump’s legal woes.

And she deserved it from what I’ve read. There are violent leftists and violent rightists. There are bigoted leftists and bigoted rightists. The difference is that on the right, the leader encourages the bigotry and violence. Thats why the threat is bigger on the right. Thats why the MAGA movement as a whole is so poisonous.

Why do you keep bringing up this stuff that has nothing to do with the topic?

They care about your whataboutism?