The Real timschochet

I don’t like @Strike’s attitude but I do think that his point is unfortunately correct. Even if we had the political will to take action about guns, it’s far too late to do anything that would have any meaningful effect.

Sure but it’s good for everyone if the rates go down.

I strongly suspect that if any transgender people resort to this sort of evil craziness it’s not a result of the folks who support them, it’s caused more by the types who shun and reject and bully them. Again just a suspicion but I think it’s a pretty reasonable one.

I was talking to some finance guys from Minnesota down at the pool yesterday and they seemed very confident that interest rates would be lowered seriously by the summertime. One of them, not a fan of Biden, said “hey Biden needs them to go down so they’ll go down. Usually happens in an election year.” If that’s true then home buying will go up and consumer confidence will increase. Let’s hope so.

No. That’s not fair

This is surmise and theory and I’m not seeing the evidence for it. But if you can prove it’s true then Joe Biden should be in prison,

I will repeat what I’ve written whenever this has come up with Biden: where’s the quid pro quo? In order for a crime to have occurred you need to show that the politician in question took action in return for the money received in the favor of the people who gave it, action that would not have been carried out otherwise. This is evidence that this New Jersey Senator, Bob Menendez, did exactly the above. That is why he is likely to be removed from office and sent to prison. But there is no evidence, yet, that Biden or Trump did the same. Come up with some and then we’ll have something.

Yes I believe that people who have gender affirming surgery should be treated under the law as members of the sex they have chosen, and otherwise left alone. And no I don’t believe that anecdotes about strokes are the same as statistical evidence against the Covid vaccine. Is this really the best you guys have to rebut my post? So lame.

In all seriousness It’s a concerning trend. In the Trump era conservatives just make up sh!t, and believe lies. Look at the latest polling: a strong majority of Republicans now believe the 2020 election was illegitimate. There is absolutely no evidence for this. But Trump said it was, so they believe it. They read fake websites like Gateway Pundit who lie constantly to them, and at the same time reject the mainstream media. And it’s not just the 2020 election of course. They don’t believe in man made climate change. They don’t believe the Covid vaccine helped save lives (Aaron Rodgers a prime example.) They ignore science and rely on Mark Levin and Joe Rogan. Against all evidence they blame fentanyl on undocumented immigrants and reject the vast majority of studies which demonstrate that these same undocumented immigrants are a net gain to our economy and not a source of violent crime. They reject all evidence of racism against black people. They have created fantasies about so many issues, such as the Ukrainians being Nazis, or Obama not being born here, or transgender being a mental illness. All of it based on lies and an ignorance of the facts. And then people argue that there is no price to pay when half the nation rejects t the mainstream media? So of course Aaron Rodgers can just make up crap about Jimmy Kimmel. It’s par for the course. I don’t know which is worse: the fact that so many right wingers are willing to believe total lies, or the fact that the ones who know better don’t seem to care so long as their side wins. Both phenomenons are pretty new and equally disturbing. And I have no idea how we get out of this mess.

https://people.com/jimmy-kimmel-slams-aaron-rodgers-over-jeffrey-epstein-claims-8421600

FTR I think you mean serfdom. (I have plenty of friends in Huntington Beach who would love a return to total surfdom.)

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. It’s said he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” - Donald Trump to New York Magazine, 2002. Doesn’t seem to match your link here.

I don’t dismiss the poll. But what’s important to emphasize is that Trump hasn’t really gained among Latinos; Biden has lost votes, not to Trump but to third party candidates and a lack of excitement about Biden. (This phenomenon is also true among blacks and young voters as well.) Conventional wisdom says that third party candidates fade as the election gets closer. Personally I believe that much of the voting public has not yet accepted the inevitability of Biden vs Trump. When that stark choice becomes clear I’m betting they return to Biden. But it’s going to be close.

Thanks for calling him out. And jonmx too. They really deserve it. About 20% of the posters here are simply rude a$$holes. The other dudes might not be but they tolerate the ones who are. Then we have the bigots, the Jew haters, the xenophobes….its really pathetic and disgusting. Im on the lookout for a different political forum. I don’t want it filled with folks who agree with me, I’d love to discuss issues and debate with lots of conservatives. Even Trumpers. But they need to be thoughtful people. I don’t want to engage with bigots and I don’t need idiots in my life, even on this level. And I don’t need extremist conspiracy nuts like Jon either- it’s boring. Theres a few dudes I enjoy talking to here: @RLLD, @Voltaire, @jerryskids. I disagree with a lot of their views but they’re not stupid and they’re not bigots. But man they’re in the minority. If I can find another forum filled with more guys like that I’m out of here. I’m sure the losers here won’t miss me; I certainly won’t miss them.

When I saw this thread I thought it was going to be about the band X. One of my faves.

Out of the country? Last I checked Hawaii was the same country. But hey thanks for the concern.

Don’t feel sad for me dude. I’m having a wonderful time. Takes a few seconds to post.

If you want to have a pleasant conversation and/ot debate, sure. But no fighting. I’m a wimp and you’d surely kick my ass. I fight with my mind only.

Because only a moron would talk the way you do. Im in Hawaii right now. Just saw one of the most beautiful waterfalls I’ve ever seen. Did you know that all of the waterfalls here were created by man? By dynamiting? There are no natural waterfalls in Hawaii. Nearly everything beautiful here- the waterfalls, the flowers, the trees, the rivers- all brought in by man. So much of our world that is pleasant was created by the mind of man. Hubris? Only in your stilted mind. Get the Fock out of here with such nonsense.

What difference?

I don’t agree with you.

Same for anyone who was procured a minor for sex by this scumbag. O

I do. I send money all the time for this and have also volunteered from time to time. And I don’t insist anyone else do so.

Forget about Trump- whatever Trump did or didn’t do with regard to this can be looked at separately. If Bill Clinton was on that island or the plane or whereever with young girls procured by Epstein he deserves to be castigated, politically cancelled, prosecuted if applicable, and shunned forever. Full stop, no whataboutisms.

No. Not when he uses terms like Marxism. If he was a liberal using terms like fascism he would be just as irrelevant. By using such terms he defines himself as somebody who allows strong political thinking to affect his judgement. So I don’t trust his analysis.