The Real timschochet

Do you believe that there are genetic differences in intelligence by race?

https://www.cato.org/blog/new-research-illegal-immigration-crime-0

The difference between culture and genetics is extremely important. Many black Americans, especially those in the inner city, live in a culture where education is not as emphasized. Or they come from single parent , poverty ridden homes. We know that this produces poor results on the whole. But the reasonable person knows that these factors can be changed. That if, for example, you put a poor performing black child in a better environment, with loving parents and a culture that emphasizes education, that child will perform better. The racist however, would not agree. A racist would argue that it doesn’t matter what environment that child is in; because he is black he is genetically inferior to non blacks and therefore incapable of achieving a higher level. if you agree with my second paragraph above then you’re not a racist. If you agree with my third paragraph then you are a racist. Pretty simple.

Your evidence doesn’t prove genetic differences. It MAY prove cultural differences, and It’s not racist to point out cultural differences. It is, IMO, racist to point out genetic differences that don’t exist according to the vast majority of scientists. Do you agree?

So once again, as in so many topics in this forum, we have the facts on one side, and on the other side we have racists, or bigots, or the MAGA crowd, or just plain conservatives telling us we should ignore the facts whenever it contradicts their preheld beliefs. This isn’t any real surprise because their leader Trump tells them to ignore the facts all the time. But it’s nonetheless very depressing.

If I am a moron, then so are the vast majority of scientists, whose consensus is that there are no genetic differences in intelligence due to race: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence#:~:text=The scientific consensus is that there is no evidence for,IQ differences between racial groups.

Please answer the question. Yes or no?

Do you believe that black Americans are in general genetically mentally inferior to white Americans? Yes or no?

It’s a maddening topic. You can’t argue with these people. they’re bringing fetanyl in and poisoning our country! Actually they’re not, it’s Americans smuggling fetanyl in, not undocumented immigrants. But the illegals are committing violent crimes like rape and murder! Actually they don’t- every study shows that once they get here they commit LESS violent crimes than American citizens by percentage. But even one violent crime is too many because they’re illegal and shouldn’t be here! True, one crime is too many. But you’re scapegoating a lot of of innocent hard working people who contribute far more to our society than they take out. I don’t care. They’re illegal deport them all! And round and round it goes. We’re farther apart than ever. And at this point we can’t even talk reasonably about this issue.

I get your question. And you may have a point. But I’m not really interested in exploring it because this sort of thing has been used for the last 300 hundred years to discriminate against individual African-Americans- to avoid hiring them for certain roles in society because of the perception that they’re not bright enough. I know that isn’t your intent but that’s where this sort of argument inevitably leads.

I’m sure some agree with me and some don’t. Just as some agree with you and some don’t, that’s because black people like all people are individuals. They can think for themselves. Despite some of the racist claims made to the contrary in this forum.

Pointing out athletic ability among races isn’t racist. Blacks dominate both the NBA and NFL in numbers far greater than their proportion of the overall population. No bigotry in pointing that out, But the claim that whites are smarter than blacks IS racist. Not the same at all. Sad that you think it is.

I’m the snowflake? There are two threads here devoted to taking Mendehall seriously. The only snowflakes around here are all the white dudes constantly whining about being victims: so funny.

If you think a black man would automatically be out coached by a white man, that is racism 101. I feel looks explaining this.

Tremendous post,

Hey @EternalShinyAndChrome- Mendenhall was having a little fun trolling. If you want true racism, see above post.

They’re also smarter than you. I’m not talking about all white people. Just you

Thats a fair point. Like you I hate Marxism (collectivist ideologies in general, like Communism and Fascism and the MAGA ideas.) But I don’t hate Communists or Fascists or MAGA folks. Most of them are simply misguided. A few are awful people.

I honestly don’t hate anyone. Takes too much energy.

Dude. It was an ironic response to the original post. It wasn’t meant to be taken as seriously as you have. I love white people. I am one, I’m married to one. I love everybody. Your anger, “Jew this” and “Jew that” frightens me. I’ve never really understood antisemitism. Thankfully I’ve never encountered very much of it. You’re probably the first real Jew hater I’ve ever conversed with. I’m a bit fascinated by you, repulsed as well, but mostly I’m sad. What makes somebody think that way?

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This sounds pretty threatening. And I’m disturbed that somebody else apparently loved your post.

Please refer to my previous link, thanks.

This sounds better in the original German.

No roundups. I love you guys. Politically you’re my opponents, that’s all. We can live together,