The Real timschochet

Really? I don’t think most people would agree with you.

Yes to your credit you are one of the few people here willing to admit your bigotry for all to see. Many others hide it with supposed concern about crime and border security, but not you. You lay your racist concerns out there. If it were possible for me to admire you for this I would.

Another good opinion piece about the relationship between undocumented immigrants and violent crime (hint: there isn’t one.): https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/03/01/undocumented-immigrant-crime-rate-not-higher/72788637007/

Terrific opinion piece about how Trump’s entire call for border security is a scam: https://newrepublic.com/article/179682/trump-rant-biden-speech-maga-ugliest-scam The real concern Trump, and at least some of his followers have, is not about border security (which would have been very much helped by the compromise bill) but about the changing ethnic makeup of the United States helped by the increased migration. Thats at the root of the MAGA movement IMO and always has been.

Why do you think she left her neighborhood and family in the first place? What conditions do you think she and all the others endured that would make them be willing to risk rape, their lives, the loss of their families, to come here? There is no amount of deterrents that will ever stop these people from trying to come here.

The Supreme Court has become politicized over many years. One of the many criticisms I have of Joe Biden is that he is one of the men most responsible for starting this process.

There was an aspect of the response speech which really bothered me last night and which I haven’t heard mentioned: when she spoke, with either genuine or manufactured emotion, about the migrant she met at the border who was repeatedly raped. The problem I have with this sort of argument, when made by Republicans, is what is their solution? Are they proposing to have authorities monitor the migrants with police authority and protect innocents, prevent rapes and arrest those responsible? No, their solution is to keep these people out of the country and prevent them from getting here. Beyond that they offer nothing. Will that prevent this woman from being raped? No.

Marjorie Taylor Greene showed a major lack of decorum last night. But it would be hypocritical of me to call it out and not mention that a few years ago Nancy Pelosi tore up her copy of the speech in public. I’m a Pelosi fan but that was awful and I said so at the time. And of course this move was a few years after the congressman who screamed out “LIAR!” at Obama. So I’m not pointing fingers at either party, only the individuals who pull this crap. But I do wish we could get back to decorum and respect from all sides.

I will concede this point. As I’ve stated before, this is the one major exception to my rule that liberals generally accept science and facts better than modern day conservatives do. In the case of nuclear energy the opposite is true (though it must also be added that a major impediment to more nuclear power is not liberal fears but a NIMBY attitude among homeowners of all political persuasions.)

Most liberals believe that crime can be successfully fought without institutional racism, which exists now among police and the justice system in this country, mostly in the inner cities. We can work to eliminate that racism and still fight crime. That is what we are trying to do. Also, most liberals believe that the best way to fight crime is by improving education and economic opportunities in those areas where crime most occurs. While punishment for crime is necessary it’s not necessarily a deterrent.

I appreciate the lengthy response here. This is the sort of thing I was hoping for when I started this thread. My thoughts. 1. Any supposed mistakes made by liberals during Covid was based on the recommendations of public health experts, and therefore, theoretically, on science. For the most part those errors didn’t cost lives. The rejection of the vaccines, almost entirely from the right, has cost many lives and continues to do so. 2. You’re speaking for yourself on climate change. Actually I don’t necessarily find your POV unreasonable, but I was referring to the millions of conservatives who reject the science of climate change. They include, incidentally, your nominee for President. In addition, while we can argue over liberal solutions to this problem,‘the almost universal attitude of conservatives to reinvest in fossil fuels (drill drill drill) is at this point the definition of insanity IMO, and once again it’s one of Trump’s main platforms for his re-election. 3. Yes believing Trump won and Birtherism are conspiracy theories based on emotionalism, not reason, my entire point. 4. As others have pointed out, very few liberals believe a man can be a woman and vice versa. What we believe is that transgenders deserve love and respect and TREATED, in most situations, as the sex they have chosen. That’s not the same thing. And it’s not a rejection of science.

Did he pass your test? This cognitive impairment stuff was always such bullsh!t.

They put a man on the moon? Not according to the GOP candidate for governor of North Carolina. They should talk.

She is really awful. Kind of cute though.

I will say his name: Lincoln Riley is an overrated coach. Had the best QB in the country and lost 6 games. Now that the Bruins have DeShaun Foster and Eric Bienemy look for UCLA to pound the crap out of the evil Trojans. Can’t wait.

Wow this woman is over the top.

I think those of you who made me the first wager- that Biden won’t be the nominee- are regretting that right now. Do you really think he’s going to quit now? Come on.

Pretty good speech. Not great- I don’t know if he’s capable of a great speech. But it was good enough. If he keeps up the fight he will win.

Where did you hear this? Or did you just make it up? He’s closing in on an hour I think.

Doing about as well as he can on the Gaza talk. But this issue needs to be resolved before November or Biden may be in trouble in Michigan.

Will the public buy Biden’s argument about the border? They haven’t so far but we will see.

I would have left out the part about potato chips:

So far not one word about the border. I don’t think he can afford not to mention it.

Joe wandered a little there with Moscow. All good:

@HellToupee I wouldn’t be posting Beetlejuice if I were you. It might make Lauren Boebert frisky.