The Real timschochet

CNN and NBC. Who cares what Trump thinks? He’s a bigot, criminal and wannabe dictator. Two years from now he’ll be in prison.

No celebrations that I’m aware of. But if you’re truly concerned about our prison system and its inequities (as all Americans should be) the best place to donate money is to the American Civil Liberties Union.

But you didn’t mention ethnicity. You mentioned white. I’m only responding to what you wrote.

You’re going to trot out examples of two extraordinary athletes to argue that racism doesn’t exist in our society? Really?

I should correct what I wrote. If you’re Italian or Polish or Russian or Hungarian you absolutely get to be proud of that heritage. But you don’t get to be proud of having white skin.

Oh no you’re quite correct. It’s the best ever society for them too. But it’s still not equal. And that’s the disconnect that you’re not getting.

Sick to death of white conservatives whining all the time. There has never been a society on Earth in which people lived better than white people currently do in the United States. None. No people have ever been more prosperous, more healthy, with more economic opportunity than white people in this country here and now. No people have ever had more freedom, more freedom of speech and thought. No society has ever been safer with less violent crime. And yet all you guys do is whine. You compare yourselves to Jews in the Holocaust or blacks in slavery. What nonsense. You complain about undocumented immigrants and transgenders and blacks in the inner city. And you complain the most about liberals like me who want to help some of these folks and give them the opportunities and life that the rest of us are so fortunate to have. Shut the Fock up already; so sick of it. Im ranting here but hey I get to do that once in a while.

What you wrote is racist drivel. Minority Americans get to be proud of their heritage. You don’t. Thats because they have centuries behind them of being mistreated for their skin color or ethnicity. YOU DON’T. Even now you have tremendous white privilege that they don’t have. I’m not asking you to feel guilty about that. But stop fricking whining about it.

First off I didn’t label him a Klan member, nice try. Second, do you think what he wrote is really worthy of serious discussion? That you can’t say you’re proud to be white in this country?

I’ve read others repeat your argument in the mainstream media. So we will see.

I predict the Supreme Court will unanimously rule that Trump has no immunity. It’s an absurd argument and it was only made, IMO, to delay the Jan 6 trial. That turned out to be a successful.

The decision is being called a “massive victory” for Donald Trump. Well not really. I don’t think anyone is truly surprised by it. If it had gone the other way somehow it probably would have helped Trump’s campaign: he wasn’t going to win Colorado anyhow and I imagine that he would have received many votes in swing states from people who don’t otherwise care about him but who don’t like being told who they can or can’t vote for.

Supreme Court rules unanimously that Donald Trump belongs on the ballot. I agree with this decision and I’m glad it was unanimous. I haven’t read the decision but my reasoning is what I stated when the argument was made originally: the 14th Amendment refers to insurrection. Trump has not been found guilty of such a crime in a court of law. Nor will he be since he is not specifically being charged with that crime in the January 6th case. How can a judge or judges assume that he is guilty of the crime without any kind of trial? FWIW I personally believe that on January 6, 2020 Donald Trump aided and abetted an insurrection against the USA, making him ineligible to run for President again. But you have to prove it in a court of law and that hasn’t happened.

The one thing you posted that has a kernel of truth: not that Trump is going to get 100 million votes (absurd) or that he will win the election (though he might) but that a good chunk of his popularity is fueled by white anger and resentment of liberals and media over the changes to our society that are now decades old. I agree with that, even if I personally approve of most of those changes.

I’m sure you feel that way. But I would argue that none of those adjectives apply to me, Delusional maybe.

It is unlike you. It surprised me.

It is. What I wrote is that not everyone who chants it is aware of that fact.

I don’t try to avoid pointing out racism when I see it. I don’t play games about it. Just a little while ago @supermike80 made a post here that was clearly racist. (I am not calling him a racist; I don’t think he is. But the post was racist.) @Jon_mx is conspiratorial, angry, raving, forever a victim, delusional, often offensive, lacking any knowledge of history or shame or both. His screeds are almost unreadable. , But I don’t see any racism in there.

This argument is often made at Klan meetings and other hate group get togethers. You sure you want to make it yourself?

I have never called Jon a racist. Nor do I think he is. Do you agree with him that the current treatment of white conservatives is akin to black people under slavery or Jews during the Holocaust?

I don’t hold you responsible for anything you didn’t do. White privilege means you escape penalties that other races suffer. for instance you don’t get stopped by police because they wonder why someone with your skin color is driving through a nice neighborhood. When you tell people what your job is, they don’t suspect you of having achieved it through affirmative action, Women don’t automatically clutch their purses tighter when you walk by and avoid you: You don’t need to live in a sanctuary city to avoid ever having to show that you are a citizen, because nobody will ever question it. These, and so many more, are privileges you receive because of your white skin. I receive the same ones: we don’t notice them but they are not a myth. It’s not wrong that we have these privileges; what’s wrong is that others don’t.

Good morning. I really don’t want to respond to much of this screed but I will make 3 points: 1. It’s pretty ironic that you believe I’ve been brainwashed. I think most rational people will read this and most of your other posts and come away thinking that the brainwashed person is you, given the amount of utter nonsense you spew. 2. I’ve tried to tell you before how offensive your analogies are. They are absurd, disgusting, sickening. They completely destroy any validity to your complaints. I will continue to ask: are you that ignorant of history? Or have you no shame? There are no alternatives. 3. You assert that I hate shore conservatives. News to me, Most of my family and friends are white conservatives. I considered myself one for many years. And I really don’t hate anyone.

If this dude’s defense is that he was only a journalist and did not participate in the riot, and if he can prove that, he should be acquitted of the charges against him. But it certainly doesn’t sound like that is the case

Anyone who went into the Capitol that day as part of the insurrection deserves jail time. How much depends on how much damage they did but they all deserve at least some time in prison. I called him crazy because apparently he cheered the rioters on and approved of it 100% and was excited that they desecrated Pelosi’s office. Crazy.

I don’t believe this would have the effect you do. I don’t think you understand, truly, the motivations of those who come here. Nor the people they are paying if any. In any event Trump’s attempts to end catch and release the last time around led to the separation of families. That’s not acceptable, ever.