The Real timschochet

The other story is completely irrelevant. I don’t even care about it, truthfully (except feeling bad for the victim as usual.) I only brought it up to demonstrate that the focus on THIS story is a play towards racism: pretty white girl gets stabbed to death by a black dude. That’s red meat for all of you who live in this fantasy world in which white people are threatened by minorities. It’s ugly and total crap and I’m sick of it. So sick of MAGA bigotry and fear. It’s disgusting.

Ugly racism as usual. Last week a black man in Los Angeles got stabbed on a bus by a white guy- no national coverage, no attention paid by Trump or MAGA. I’m very sorry for this girl, and her loved ones. But if she wasn’t white and pretty and murdered by a black dude we’d have never heard about it.

Trump may well be saved from this by the Supreme Court. It would be a great out for him: “Hey I wanted to do it but they wouldn’t let me.” (It would be a great result for the country if this happens.)

Ok new thread idea. Each day I will highlight a patriot standing up for American values in the face of the growing autocracy. Today’s hero: Michelle Wu, mayor of Boston: https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2025/08/19/stop-attacking-our-cities-wu-says-to-bondi-threatening-legal-action/?amp=1 “Stop attacking our cities. Silence in the face of oppression is not an option.”

Do you believe that ICE has the right to use racial profiling to arrest people? Yes or no? Do you believe ICE and police should use racial profiling to arrest people? Yes or no?

There is no way to fight this except for the Democrats to win more elections and change the laws. That’s it. I don’t agree with the Supreme Court (obviously) but they get to decide. The polls suggest that what ICE is doing here is growing more and more unpopular. Let’s hope that’s the case and that it’s reflected in next year’s elections. Otherwise we’re screwed, IMO.

I thought Caleb did very well last night against one of the best defenses from last year.

It’s incorrect to say that all of us think this. But I certainly do.

The people you’re arguing with are saying it’s not happening and it’s a good thing both at the same time.

Maybe not but they are the solution to improving the overall economy.

How do we strengthen the economy? 1. Free trade. 2. Open immigration. Exactly the opposite of what we’re doing.

The lawsuit against the WSJ did not argue that the birthday note was a forgery; it says that the note is “nonexistent”- the basis of the lawsuit is that WSJ fabricated the note. Yet here it is. Now Trump’s team is arguing that the signature is clearly a forgery, but doesn’t explain why someone would forge Trump’s signature 20 years ago prior to his entry into politics (this is reminiscent of the Obama birth certificate conspiracy in which a similar question was never answered.) In this forum, the usual suspects aren’t bothering to defend any of this. They simply bring up the old BS about Biden.

Trump won’t comment on the birthday note because it’s a “dead issue”. Move on.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/frank-tyson-toledo-police-body-cam-video-handcuffed-facedown-bar-floor/ How long are we a society going to allow this sort of thing to continue? How long are conservatives going to pretend that this isn’t an issue, while claiming the real issue is black on black violence? Democrats tried to pass the George Floyd act which might have helped prevent this sort of thing, but Republicans stopped it. Donald Trump is campaigning on giving police unfettered power and immunity against being charged for this sort of activity. Which side are you on?

So MAGA is going with its an obvious forgery.

I agree it’s awful.

I was arguing against the specific point that “taxpayers are paying for his defense.” That is false. Taxpayers are paying for his prosecution which frankly strikes me as unnecessary. I don’t really buy that he’s a serious criminal and I don’t think we as a society would lose much by letting him stay here.

Lol I don’t think you’re a racist @Voltaire. And I doubt you think I am either. We just disagree on the means to fight racism, and you are unfortunately covering for racists on your side (though you don’t realize it- but you should.)

Trump, and @Maximum Overkill, and the rest of MAGA don’t want you to have an education. They want you to replace undocumented immigrants in the fields and other low paying jobs. They believe that’s the proper role for black people as this thread demonstrates. MAGA is all about proper roles for each group. Keep new immigrants out. Keep the blacks and Latinos already here in the low paying jobs. Reserve the American Dream of upward mobility for white people. This is the new Apartheid.

So far as I know, Abrego Garcia’s defense is paid for by volunteers through crowdsourcing, not by the taxpayer. Do you have information to back up your insistence otherwise?

He continues to fight this in court and the courts haven’t fully adjudicated this or he would already be deported. So YOU are the one lying here.

For thing because, as predicted it’s killing the economy: https://fiscalpolicy.org/the-economic-and-fiscal-impacts-of-mass-deportation This study was written back in January. Everything forecast is already coming to pass. For another thing it’s morally evil. It’s a policy based on fear, ignorance and bigotry.

You can but it’s not good for the country.

The day you’re arrested and deported you can scream that you’re an American citizen and have papers to prove it. Nobody will listen:

Well that’s three of you now who believe that the government can decide who belongs here and who doesn’t and needn’t prove anything before a court of law. This sort of thinking is how we move towards a dictatorship. Congrats.