The Real timschochet

Most lopsided pro-conservative bill on border issues in my lifetime. But they still don’t want it. Trump wants a crisis at the border, unsolved for the election. That’s the bottom line.

Hilarious. ends catch and release. No amnesty for dreamers. Money for Israel which many Democrats are uneasy about so long as Netanyahu is in charge. But yeah it’s a Democrat wish list. Only in Trumpland.

Thank you, agreed. But let’s get to what’s really going on here: 1. the bill could help Biden: 2. the bill could hurt Trump. 3. Congress is controlled by Republicans. 4. Therefore the bill will not pass. It’s smart politics for the Democrats to attack Trump over this, and I’ll continue to do so, but in all honesty this sort of agreement NEVER happens in a Presidential election year. If you want a bipartisan deal of this sort, you need to get it done on the first year AFTER the election. That’s your window. Otherwise all of these dudes on both sides are too interested in pleasing their base to ever be willing to work with the other side, whom they have to castigate as the enemy in order to retain or grow their power. That’s our system. It kind of sucks but I’ve no idea how to fix it.

Your nickname for Mrs Clinton indicates you’ve learned far less than I have. What I’ve written here is believed by a whole lot of people who look at this closely, conservatives and liberals alike. It’s what I think will happen but I make no guarantees. It’s going to be a very close election.

If his primary goal is ultimately to avoid regulating the internet, he should support Republicans.

One big worry for Biden in that poll: the Israel-Gaza thing needs to go away by summer. It can’t be going on the way it is now. Otherwise Biden might lose Michigan due to the Muslim population there and he won’t get all the young people he needs. Bottom line: Israel can’t be in the news when the election happens.

I sure hope you’re right. At the last secret Jewish meeting a couple of weeks ago, George Soros himself assured me “don’t worry, I got this.” My response was “where’s my focking check?”

He will win. The most important thing that needs to happen is that people have to finally understand is that it’s a binary choice between Biden and Trump. Once they get that it will change attitudes. The second most important thing is the economy. It’s much better but that hasn’t reached public opinion yet. I think it will. There are lots of other reasons to be optimistic for Biden which I can get into later but those are, IMO, the main two.

It’s not good. Biden is not going to be replaced. There’s no point in talking about it. Biden vs Trump is the race that’s going to happen. I still think that Biden is going to win for various reasons that I’ve gone into many times here: But right now these polls don’t look good. If the American people want Trump to come back so be it.

In response to your 4 items: 1. I don’t care whether you or Bill Maher or whomever makes this argument it’s not accurate. The only significant difference between Trump and Biden years in terms of enforcement that has had any effect is Remain in Mexico and it would have been thrown out by the courts by now even if Trump had been re-elected. Trump’s other policies, beyond being inhumane and cruel, were also completely ineffective. If Trump was President right now we would be facing the exact same crisis at the border and he would be asking Congress for the exact same powers that Biden is asking for- except that his proposals would be a lot crueler and a lot less effective. 2. Texas is not enforcing US immigration policy. Barbed wires in rivers plays no part in US policy, never has, and never should. Texas is acting as a rogue agent in many ways and needs to be stopped. 3. I would have voted for that bill and many Democrats did. The majority that did not argued that there should be no new deportation laws on the books without comprehensive immigration reform, a broader argument which I also generally agree with. Your interpretation that they are for open borders is false and extreme. 4. Of course undocumented immigrants need health care. There are around 15 million of these people. Without healthcare they can be a public health risk, particularly when it comes to tuberculosis. Every visit to the ER costs us far more as taxpayers than if we simply gave them access, this is just common sense. We would save tons of money by doing this.

Because it was good for America, because it strengthened the economy. This new deal apparently has no amnesty or path to citizenship, which is unfortunate. But let’s be very clear: if Congress passed a bill giving immediate amnesty and full citizenship to every undocumented person living here without any kind of additional border security, it would still have a net very positive economic effect for this country.

This is a legitimate argument. I don’t agree with it at all but it’s not hateful, bigoted or xenophobic.

It’s frustrating to me because I know that most of you who disagree with me on this subject are good people. You don’t like that these folks are breaking our laws by coming here and you think they are an economic burden. I get that. I disagree as to the second part but I get your position. What I don’t get is how you don’t have sympathy for them and how you are eager to label them all violent criminals. That’s the bigoted, hateful part. I don’t understand it. Americans are better than this.

None of that applies. Yes these people are breaking our laws by coming here. But almost all of them are destitute and looking for a better life. They’re not out to harm us, they’re not out to invade us. Seriously how can you guys see them as villains?

There is no definition of “invasion” that would include the entrance of undocumented immigrants into the United States. None. It’s both equally stupid, lazy and hateful to use that word to describe this situation and you define yourself as a xenophobic idiot when you do. Congrats.

Why are you defending such a racist post? I don’t think you are a racist yourself (CDub clearly is) but I don’t understand your need to defend them.

I would say so yes

The responses to my post last night were predictable but sad. In response: 1. All acts of violence are terrible and should be punished. Any undocumented immigrant caught committing a violent crime should be punished and then immediately deported, no questions asked. No amnesty program should ever include such a person. 2. Attacks against law enforcement are especially vile. I don’t care if it’s a riot, or a peaceful protest that turns into a riot, or this situation. It’s never acceptable. 3. The vast majority of undocumented immigrants are not violent. They do not deserve to get grouped in with those that are. That is my objection to the posts here. When you group people together in such a manner you are engaging in ignorance and bigotry. It’s not acceptable.

This makes no sense. Trump’s order to kill Solemani was a bigger act of war than anything Biden has done. So were the sanctions.

We needed to punish the perpetrators of these attacks without getting ourselves into a war with Iran. Thats why we had to telegraph what we’re doing. I don’t think Biden has made any real mistakes here.

Of course. We have a military presence in the Middle East in order to ensure the smooth production and flow of the world’s petroleum supply. This flow is vital to our economy because oil is a globally traded commodity: even if 100% of the oil that we use in the United States came from sources other than the Middle East, we would still be dramatically affected, negatively, by any cut in Middle East oil. The only way to change this is to move the world off oil by finding a viable alternative. If we can do that we can eliminate any need for a military presence. But we can never not be involved due the threat and/or presence of nuclear weapons.

This post demonstrates that racism is not just an important part of our history; it’s still around.

The voters that count (in the swing states) are going to elect Biden and Democrats. Mainly because they are better on the issues they care most about. And because Republicans have gone off the deep end. A blue wave is coming.

They certainly do seem to be obsessed about me given the amount of posts I read that mention my name. It’s a little unnerving.

All you guys do is post ugly anecdotes of the tiny minority of undocumented immigrants who commit violence. The vast majority do not but you ignore that. It’s hateful stuff. And it’s not going to change anything. You hate these people and don’t want them here. We get it. Xenophobia is ignorant and awful, maybe someday you’ll grow up and get over it.