The Real timschochet

This is the best speech I have ever heard from Chris Christie.

Again I didn’t argue that you are racist and I have no reason to think you are.

I think people like yourself misunderstand what is meant by this. When I say “white privilege” I mean that white people have all sorts of privileges in our society that many minorities don’t. But I am NOT saying that any of these privileges are undeserved. I don’t want to take away any white privileges; I just want everyone else to have them too.

But that’s kind of my point, isn’t it? You wouldn’t. You would automatically assume she was qualified for her position, up until the day she proved she wasn’t. Here however your mind goes immediately to DEI and you question her true qualification. Don’t you see that as a problem? And BTW I get that this is a double edged sword. One of the problems with DEI, and affirmative action before it, is that it’s going to cause these sort of assumptions about minority hires all the time, and therefore actually might increase the very sort of racial bias it’s designed to eliminate. That’s the conservative argument, long made by Thomas Sowell and others, and it’s a good one. I’m not fully convinced of it but it’s a reasonable position to hold.

I don’t think you’re a racist. But I think your comments about Gay were problematic. If Gay were white and incompetent, would your thoughts have gone right to DEI? I’m guessing no, you just would have thought she was incompetent. Her skin color would not have played any factor into your thinking whatsoever. Is that fair?

Not really. Only two guys around here, @Cdub100 and @Casual Observer, have shown a proclivity for Jew hatred. The other conservatives have not, but most of them are silent on the issue, sadly, if the hatred comes from someone on “their side”. Incidentally this is one of my biggest issues with today’s conservatives: I don’t believe most of them are bigots, but they are willing to tolerate bigots in their midst. Beginning, of course, with the man they want to return to the White House.

Depends on the issue doesn’t it? On social issues (abortion, gay rights, trans rights, African-American issues, etc.) I suppose I’m pretty extreme compared to many other people. On immigration issues I’m extreme (though not leftist; my views on that stem from libertarianism.) But traditionally when one is described as liberal or conservative, the main concerns at play are economic: should government have more control on business or less? Should there be some sort of redistribution of wealth? Should taxes be lower in general or higher? Etc, On these issues I find myself in the center most times.

I really don’t think you’ve read much about Mao or Stalin or you couldn’t possibly write something so ridiculous. Mao and Stalin, two of the most evil mass murderers in history, ruled over totalitarian collectivist societies. They liquidated whole classes of people, and starved millions. Their rule, while they lived, was absolute. I invite you to demonstrate any American Democrat, no matter how extreme you think they are, who has ever said or done anything to indicate commonality with Mao or Stalin. I don’t believe you can. But please go ahead and provide examples to prove your assertion.

Part of Biden’s 2024 campaign will be against the do nothing Republican Congress. I think this will be somewhat effective.

You constantly accuse me of repeating whatever I read in the mainstream media. Actually that’s an accurate accusation, since I regard the MSM as a reasonably objective source of news. But you on the other hand seem to be willing to parrot whatever Donald Trump and his allies say without any question. Do you detect any irony in this?

Let’s parse this out: 1. Doxxing should be illegal. Anyone who does it should be spending a few days in jail, IMO. It’s no part of liberalism. There are some awful people on “my side” who do this. But I’m pretty sure there are also awful folks on “your side” who do it too. 2. I have no problem with cancelling so long as government isn’t involved. That is if someone turns out to be an abuser of women, a pedophile, a racist, a bigot, etc, I don’t mind people electing of their own free will not to see their movies, spend money on their products, etc. I don’t watch Mel Gibson or Woody Allen movies any longer for this reason: I have determined that both guys are awful human beings and they’re not going to get any more of my hard earned money: But I don’t have the right to speak for anyone else.

Wow. That is really bizarre. I guess the Rape of Nanking strikes you as typical liberal behavior? lol.

No. It depends on the tone and nature of the criticism.

Good question. It’s because the specific criticism of George Soros, as a wealthy mysterious man who behind the scenes pulls strings and influence events, plays into several long held anti-Semitic tropes. Leftist attacks against the late Sheldon Adelson were also anti-Semitic IMO.

The reasons that Epps received a lighter sentence are detailed here: https://apnews.com/article/ray-epps-conspiracy-theory-capitol-riot-fbbfca2fc1c13c439fca7d460237934c Basically it’s because he tried to stop the violence on the day of, and since then has expressed remorse. It has zero to do with any dumb conspiracy. The guy doesn’t work for the FBI.

My conversation with @supermike80 is on a different track. And he’s not an anti-Semite.

In the case of a public health crisis this is not a defensible position.

I agree. We need to regulate everyone who comes in if we can. And that’s why the decision by California to give undocumented immigrants free access to health care is a good one.

It was a pretty coherent, excellent speech IMO. I don’t think your description quite does it justice. Was there a specific point he made that you take issue with?

I don’t agree with your overall assessment of Joe Biden’s mental acuity. Did you watch his speech from a few days ago? It was very sharp. He’s not being puppeted. He’s still the guy in charge, and very bright and very alert.

The problem with your argument is that in the case of a public health crisis, your decisions may put others at risk.

I don’t believe that the vast majority of Trump supporters are racist. If I ever wrote that, in anger, then I apologize. I don’t believe Republicans are bad people either.

Yes but not me. And you know this because I have paid you in the past. If you don’t want to make the bet because you’re afraid you might be wrong, fine. But don’t offer whiny excuses like you think I might not pay you.

Hopefully he wins his lawsuits against Fox and Tucker Carlson. Guys an idiot but the right wing media ruined whatever’s left of his life with their bogus conspiracy theories (which I see you have sucked right up like the bootlicker you are.)

A lot of the criticism against Joe Biden in this forum is, IMO, unwarranted and over the top. But not this issue. It’s inexplicable. How could he not know his Secretary of Defense was in the hospital? How could he not know, apparently until today, that it was prostrate cancer? it’s a total fockup and Biden’s critics are having a field day. And for once it’s well-deserved.