The Real timschochet

I really enjoyed the thoughtful discussion between RLLD and BuckSwope, though I generally lean towards one side, obviously. But this is the sort of debate we need more of around here. Moving back to the original topic of this thread: I don’t believe the two events are very comparable. For one thing the riots that occurred after George Floyd were sporadic, spontaneous events over several days and weeks. There was no planning that went into them, no deliberate effort. Like the Rodney King riots of the 90s, the Detroit, Newark and Watts riots of the 60s, they basically represented the anger of black people in our inner cities over their perceived treatment by police. There have been enough of these incidents in our recent history to suggest that these are not directed events. Conversely, the January 6 riot appears to have been planned deliberately, which is the reason that Donald Trump and others have been indicted. We will learn in due time whether this is true or not though the facts already seem pretty clear to some of us. Certainly this part is true: the January 6 riot was intended to prevent the peaceful transference of political power in this country. Therefore without commenting on whether or not this event was “worse” or “better” than the George Floyd riots, it has a very different level of significance. I would note that only one side is continually bringing up this comparison. It seems to me that the reason for doing so is not so much to discuss the actual facts and roots surrounding the Floyd riots, but instead as an attempt to lessen the import of what happened on January 6. If so, this is, I believe, doomed to fail.

There’s a lot of conservatives in the Senate, House and elsewhere who are gravely concerned about Tuberville’s actions and that it’s going to hurt national security. So are the leaders of the Pentagon. I would hardly call any of these folks communists. Are they unjustified in their concerns?

I’m pretty sure that’s true. But the reason it’s worth responding to is because there appears to be a lot of sentiment in that direction.

I think you’re the one who has been misinformed.

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/27/ken-paxton-impeached-texas-attorney-general/ I’m not really sure what this is about. I’ve never heard of the guy. Apparently Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene have come to his defense. But the vote was kind of overwhelming with lots of Republicans voting to impeach. Anybody from Texas have any thoughts on this?

This is simply not true. It depends on the situation.

I think it’s fair to read this statement and regard you as a fascist. Especially since you use the word “unjustified” which suggests that there is “justified” violence. You are not a conservative; never call yourself that again. You are an authoritarian fascist.