The Real timschochet

Some of us have pointed out since the start of Trump’s second term that innocent people were going to get caught up in this deportation crap and that appears to be what has happened here. We need to stop this whole mess before it does serious harm to us as a nation. It’s OK to deport convicted violent criminals who are undocumented: DO NOT DEPORT ANYONE ELSE. Full stop.

If he’s not actually a gang member he shouldn’t be deported at all. And he should have a huge lawsuit against ICE and DHS. I would think about 100 million would suffice. And I seriously hope he gets it.

Yes I remember. She was extremely credible. You chose not to believe her for political reasons which is pretty shameful. Disgraceful even. Some of us will never forget.

When @Strike posted this over a week ago I tried to point out that once Texas committed their terrible act the voters of California would quickly get behind what Newsom is doing. He laughed it off with his usual idiotic contempt. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/love-hate-poll-shows-californians-100000708.html We’re still in August and among likely California voters Newsom’s bill now has a 20 point lead. So much for Strike. Once again I tried to tell you guys…

So you agree that nothing she says has credibility?

She never saw anything?? Dude there is testimony from her trial that she undressed the victims for Epstein and watched.

I haven’t really followed along to know if what you’ve written here is accurate, but what you accusing him of- cherry picking past posts without context in order to paint somebody as a liar or in a bad light- you have attempted to do to me dozens of times in the past. It’s pretty much been your M.O. forever. Just saying.

The judge wrote that 5 years ago though. If they want to prosecute Bolton for that go ahead. What’s the justification for raiding his house in August of 2025?

Whole truth?? I wasn’t aware of this when I last posted on this topic, but not only did she “exonerate” Trump, she also “exonerated” Epstein and herself. She said she never saw Epstein do anything improperly or against anyone’s will, and that she wasn’t involved in procuring anyone, and that there was never any sex with minors, only massages. So really there is nothing here at all.

No. This has been terrible, but thanks for asking.

No heroes over the weekend; I will return Monday with 5 every week.

That’s really up to MAGA

Here’s the tell- she also said “I don’t think they were close friends or I certainly…don’t recall ever seeing him (Trump) in his (Epstein’s) house for instance.” Not only is there plenty of video of Trump at Epstein’s house, and a photo of Trump and Epstein AND MAXWELL as Epstein’s house, there is also an interview of Epstein on tape saying that for about ten years he was Trump’s best friend. She appears to be lying.

I only ask because once again, just like every other time they are in power, despite warning us (correctly) that our current level of national debt is unsustainable and will eventually lead us to a catastrophe…they are voting to increase it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/05/15/gop-tax-deficit-bill/ Trump’s new “beautiful bill” will increase the debt by 2.5 trillion over the next 10 years. So do they REALLY care?

Once again humorless MAGA completely misses the point. Newsom is not trying to be an “Alpha”; he’s mocking you guys for thinking Trump is an alpha. When you post videos like this you’re just making his point for him.

Which one? I am home sick today, some kind of stomach flu. The news from Canada is good. Anytime tariffs are lowered on either side I get happy. Any time they’re raised on either side I am not.

I didn’t know about the Nazi flag thing.

Today’s hero: Pastor Doug Pagett of Minnesota, an evangelical church leader who has formed a coalition of 5,000 churches dedicated to resist ICE raids: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/exclusive-the-churches-fighting-back-against-ice “Faith traditions call upon us to welcome the stranger, protect the vulnerable, and love our neighbors.” Many of the evangelical churches associated with Pagett have deep missionary connections with Africa and Central America.

You’ll just have to wait for it. Key the suspense!

No need to call me names: I didn’t know about the other stuff you’re accusing her of and frankly I don’t care. I’m not taking your word for it though. Maybe she’s corrupt and a terrible person and all of the other stuff you’re accusing her of. No matter she opposes Trump on the extremely important issue (for me) of Sanctuary Cities. I seriously see this as a defining issue of our times and what it means to be an American. I’m not trolling, not joking around here. The fact that she comes from Boston makes it sweeter because Boston’s abolitionists played such a large role defying the federal government during the slavery years and I find tremendous parallels. I know you disagree. I think that, despite your views on this issue, you’re a pretty good dude. I just think you’re misguided here. Best wishes.

The other day I wrote that I would be posting a lot less in this forum and that remains true UNLESS anyone wants to engage in some serious discussion with me: you know the kind where you offer ideas and mean them, no trolling, and you’re prepared to back up your arguments. The kind where you try to avoid name calling and gratuitous remarks. If nobody wants to do that, I get it, that’s fine. Stay out of this thread and I’ll stay out of yours. If you do come into this thread looking to troll me I can’t stop you but don’t look for me to respond. As for anyone who wants to have deeper, thoughtful discussions, let’s have a clean slate. I’ll respond to everyone who seriously wants to engage with me: you don’t remember my past comments and I won’t recall yours either. We’ll start over; how’s that? I am a liberal and I know most of you are conservatives but that’s no reason we can’t engage in fruitful, respectful discussion. I am interested n the following topics: the Presidential election, Trump’s legal problems; Biden’s legal problems, abortion; climate change, inflation and the economy, gun control, race relations; the border and undocumented immigration, gay and trans issues, Ukraine and NATO, Israel and Palestine, the House and Senate races, all in no particular order. I want to discuss this stuff with serious people who disagree with me. If you’re not one of those, then no worries. We don’t need to talk any further.

They were never illegal to begin with. They committed a crime, a small one, by coming here without papers. So they need to suffer a small punishment and be done with it. But a person can’t be illegal. I know people don’t take me seriously when I write this but too focking bad. Calling groups of people illegal or illegal immigrants is a deliberate means of dehumanizing them. It’s wrong, we should treat it like using the N word.

Just to clarify: does Putin need to do anything at all or should Zelenskyy simply surrender?

No I don’t. I think people who do that should pay a heavy fine. But if they pay that they should not be deported.

I don’t excuse ANY crime, especially violent crime. Anyone who commits a violent crime must be punished and is ultimately responsible for that crime. But that doesn’t mean that we can’t look at the underlying factors and try to change them in order to make it less likely. This what some conservatives never seem to understand.