The Real timschochet

I never claimed it was. I was writing about things that I stand for. Her poem is one of those things. I happen to believe that it represents the best of Americanism. But that’s me.

You’re repeating news from questionable sources which has mostly been proven false. You’re fearmongering, and you’re repeating this trash because you want to believe it. https://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/posts/refugees-and-islamophobia-in-western-europe-the-boomerang-effect

Most of them yes. A few of them no, and if those cause trouble they will have to be dealt with. But I am firmly convinced that most Muslims living in France, Germany and England both enjoy and contribute to the western way of life and personal freedoms that dominate those countries.

Not to me. In any event do you really think that if the general public has been opposed to the poem it would have been placed on the statue anyhow? That’s absurd.

This is part is true. I disagree with the rest of what you wrote. Here is my argument, which is a rejection of nearly everything that has been written in this thread: I believe that the vast majority of Muslims who come to live in this country have also chosen Enlightenment, rejecting those tenets of Islam that are incompatible with it. Furthermore as part of OUR acceptance of our own ideals. We must treat them as individuals and not as a group who is a collective threat. Therefore we should welcome them in without regard to their religion.

Some of them were selected. But I still don’t understand your point. What difference does it make to the ideals behind the documents that Emma Lazarus was never elected?

My point is that if you’re going to argue that the American concept of freedom is incompatible with Islam then you have to also acknowledge that it’s incompatible with Christianity, Both are true. The ultimate “Christian society” is the one designed by Jean Calvin in Geneva, which bore a close resemblance to modern day Iran. It was a dictatorship.

Yes technically by the Virginia House of Burgess (a small group, not “the people”) but he was chosen by John Adams to write the Declaration. Not sure what if any point you are making here.

Once again you’re completely wrong. https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/p/the-new-testament-versus-the-american-revolution There are huge conflicts between the New Teatament and the Declaration of Independence and all aspects of the Enlightenment:

Dave Davies is responsible for some of the greatest guitar riffs in rock history: this song, “You Really Got Me”, a few others.

Really? Prove it. Provide one link to back up that claim.

Wait/ what “people” elected Thomas Jefferson to write the Declaration of Independence?

You’re correct that the ideas I listed are incompatible with the Qu’run and many of the main tenets of the Muslim religion. The problem is they are also incompatible with the Bible and many of the main tenets of the Jewish and Christian religions. Individual members of each of these religions simply choose to ignore the parts of their religion which conflict with the ideas of this country,

One of the original rides, personally designed by Walt Disney, which must bother the hell out of @Cdub100 and all the other bigots around here and everywhere. It’s a tribute to globalism, woke, and diversity.

Are you saying that UCLA doesn’t matter to you as a Big-10 school? I’m schocked.

And Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration specifically for white men. I don’t care. The words apply to all of us, everyone.

Really? I stand for freedom, the rights of the individual, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the words of Emma Lazarus as written on the Statue of Liberty. What do you stand for?

Maybe because I have never promoted violence?

You’re wrong. And you’re mentally unbalanced. You don’t strike me as a liar but I think you’re worse.

I’ve stopped answering your questions, feel free to figure it out.

At the present time owning a Tesla is unpatriotic. If Musk sells the company that will change.

So much bigotry here.

First off your information is incorrect as usual. There are plenty of non-citizens in this country who have the legal right to be here, including Venezuelan refugees. Second, you proved yourself to be a bigot by posting taco images after celebrating the deportation of non-violent undocumented people. In the past your comments about transgenders have shown you as a bigot on that subject as well.

He wasn’t illegal you stupid bigot. The Venezuelan refugees were on legal visas. The only justifiable reason to send them away is if they’re gang members. If they’re not gang members we had no right to remove them under the law that Trump invoked. Human knows this and is pretending not to, which is why he’s a bigot and a thug. You apparently don’t know it which is why you’re a bigot and stupid.

I watched Tom Homan on ABC’s This Week. Such a thug, “All those guys were gang members; so we sent them back; we’re not messing around.” “How do you know they were all gang members?” “Because my guys told me so, okay?” “One of them is a former soccer star who has never been in a gang. His tattoo looks a lot like the gang tattoo but it’s actually of a Venezuelan soccer team. Now he’s in the prison in El Salvador and not allowed to see his lawyer. His lawyer says he was seized and sent there and never got due process or a chance to prove that he wasn’t in any gang.” “Hey look I’m not gonna discuss individual cases with you, all right? If my guys say they’re gang members then I’m satisfied. End of story.” The Gestapo would be so proud…