The Real timschochet

I don’t know, at this time, what the truth is. But I am highly skeptical that you’re correct for a couple of reasons: first because many conservative politicians, including Josh Hawley and RonJohnson, warned that millions of deserving legal Americans would be kicked off Medicare rolls if this passed, before reluctantly voting for it anyhow. Why would they have parroted liberal propaganda designed, in your estimation, to defeat Republicans in 2026? That makes no sense. Second, removing undocumented and “underserving” people from Medicare doesn’t save the money Republicans required here. It’s that simple. The math doesn’t add up. (For the sake of honesty I need to add here that even if you were 100% right I personally would not be OK with this since I am very much opposed to removing undocumented people from Medicare. But I get that this is not a popular view particularly in this forum.)

You mispelled “least, compared to white conservatives.”

According to this: https://www.medicarerights.org/medicare-watch/2025/07/03/final-house-vote-looms-on-devastating-health-and-food-assistance-cuts There will be millions of legal American citizens who will be cut off from Medicare, not just undocumented people and folks who don’t work but could- as @Voltaire and several other people are implying. Obviously SOMEBODY is being lied to.

I hope your children aren’t too ashamed of you. I certainly would be.

This is why in the end my side will win. The American public will only tolerate xenophobia and bigotry in small bunches; eventually they always reject it.

And reverse it bit by bit. That’s going to happen. The American people don’t want this. All of Trump’s idiotic cuts, we’ll bring all of them back.

Democrats can’t complain. They lost the election. Next time do a better job. I think they will though. Winning in 2026 should be a slam dunk (though if anyone can blow it, Dems can.)

Lol we should have scared people more. Then maybe they would have pressured Trump to back off. Now it’s probably too late.

So what you’re saying is that they will absorb the price? Not gonna happen. Vietnam doesn’t sell directly to US consumers. They sell to vendors/importers, who will have no choice but to raise their prices.

It’s amazing to me that Trump supporters can pretend that the laws of the marketplace don’t exist. The last dudes to do that were Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin. You guys are in good company!

But they weren’t wrong at all.

I can’t think of anything I’ve posted that’s been incorrect.

They’re going to pay for all tarrifs on imports without our vendors passing to consumers? Really?

If Abrego Garcia can prove that he was beaten and tortured in El Salvador then he deserves to be awarded with millions of dollars from the U.S. government along with an official apology.

Republicans in both the House and Senate KNOW how awful this bill is. But they’re so spineless. They’re terrified of being primaried by Trump. I hope they all pay for this.

Hopefully it will be Trump’s new home when he finally serves time in a few years.

1. Fixed. 2. You’re goddam right I do.

The negative reactions are from people who don’t understand what it means to be an American. But that’s their right (to be stupid) and I’m kind of proud of that too.

Democrats are the only ones who sometimes do. Republicans talk a good game but always increase it. Democrats always get much closer to actually balancing the budget or lowering the deficit. If you don’t believe me just look it up sometime.

One of the things that makes me the most proud about being an American is that pride in being an American is not required.

You don’t need to. Only those that make dumb claims about them should study them before those claims are made.

On the slavery line he and @EternalShinyAndChrome are either trolling or just stupid. I suspect (hope the former.) They’re basing it of course on the argument that Democrats prior to 1864 were pro-slavery. Two problems with this: first only the southern Democrats were pro-slavery. The North broke with the south over this issue which is why the Democratic Convention in 1860 at a Charleston failed to produce a Presidential candidate. Second and more importantly: the Democrats of the 19th Century was NOT a liberal party. They were conservatives. The Republican Party of Abe Lincoln were the liberals, that is why they were often referred to as “radical Republicans.” It didn’t start to change until the New Deal and not fully until around 1968. This is the part that @RaiderHaters Revenge and @EternalShinyAndChrome know, or should. That’s why I think they’re just trolling.

99% of this will never happen even if we elected Demcratic Socialists to every major office (if you don’t believe this I would recommend studying the socialist governments of Clement Atlee in Britain and Olaf Palme in Sweden.) I much prefer centrist Democrats like Rick Caruso. Even so I WILL vote for these folks if MAGA is the alternative.

@RaiderHaters Revenge is sincere in his views but he doesn’t understand any history. It’s like he gets his historical facts from a combination of Prager University and a MAGA box of Crackerjacks. He’s almost 100% wrong. @EternalShinyAndChrome is the same. I keep trying to educate both of them but they don’t want to know the truth.

Population increases only give Democrats control if the areas in question continue to vote Democrat. Change some of the Republican bullsh!t and they won’t.