The Real timschochet

You’re collectivizing. And it’s wrong. I have a Palestinian tenant in one of the shopping centers I manage. An auto mechanic shop. Nicest guy. I’ve met his family before. Very sweet. Now I’ve never discussed politics with him so maybe he’s a pro-terrorist. I’ve no idea. But he quietly operates a business, pays his rent. He knows I’m Jewish. Never been anything but friendly. Now you’re saying we shouldn’t have these folks in our country based on the off chance that they might be terrorist or terrorist sympathizers? Perhaps I’m what you’d consider a bleeding heart but that’s unacceptable to me. It’s NOT what this country is supposed to be about. We treat everyone as an individual no matter where they’re from.

Well technically he didn’t. Hitler never grabbed a gun and shot anyone; he never operated a gas chamber or crematorium; so far as we know he never visited a concentration camp. BTW Musk’a actual statement wasn’t just about Hitler; it was about Hitler, Stalin and Mao. Which I think strengthens my interpretation of it. Musk is saying that in each case it was the state apparatus that actually carried out these crimes. LOL and before any conservative around here tries to give me props again or thanks me for my “intellectual honesty” just keep in mind that I regard what Musk actually meant here to be just as offensive.

It’s a pretty basic question, and I’m asking it of conservatives in this forum. I’m not making any arguments or judgments. The right wing in Congress does not want to go along with the deal that Mike Johnson agreed to. They are demanding: 1. A return to Remain in Mexico, Trump’s other policies on the border, and funding for a complete wall across the southern border. 2. Severe cuts to the spending package, including the stoppage of all monies going to sanctuary cities until these cities end their sanctuary city status. 3. No more money for Ukraine. These Republicans, led by Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene, represent a minority of the House but there are enough to prevent a deal being reached. They will not agree to any deal without these 3 points and would rather see the government shut down. My question to conservatives here is: do you agree with them? Or do you think that Mike Johnson’s compromise should be accepted? Or do you have another solution in mind?

Well like I wrote- you needn’t worry about what I think, or what Dems say. The only way this matters is if regular folks start to feel negatively affected. If they don’t then all of my complaints won’t matter for sh!t.

Scroll up buddy. I posted you a link. Here’s more: https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/regulatory/medicaid-faces-severe-cuts-new-budget-framework

This is why I get suspicious of people who focus so much on transgenders and gays. The ones who shout the loudest always turn out to be guilty of something. Frigging always.

It probably does to you. But I’m betting you’re guilty of double standards. I’m betting you’re willing to excuse Americans of war crimes that you condemn others for.

@Gepetto the article you posted makes the guy sound like an extremist, a fanatic, a bad person, not somebody I would prefer to be around. But it doesn’t justify deporting him. Not to me. It’s not enough; there has to be something more. Maybe there is. But it wasn’t in the article. Please keep in mind that when I write this I am not trying to defend this dude. I don’t care about him, or what happens to him. I only care about our system of justice and defending it.

Shall we start with wherever you’re from? You’ve openly wished for violence for people here and our families. Shall we deport you? Based on the logic of many here we can and should.

If they held hostages of course they are terrorist. How many do you think were involved in that? A few thousand at most? Out of a population of millions. Are they sympathetic to terrorism? Sadly I suspect many of them are as they believe it’s the only way to oppose Israel, and they view them as guerillas. Does this make them criminals? Not in my book.

Again the proof will be out there for folks to see. If your interpretation of events is correct then the public won’t mind no matter how much Democrats might complain. But I think, based on what I have read, that the public is going to see significant differences in real time that affects them directly and they won’t like it. And if they happens all of your assurances, and Trump’s won’t matter.

Actually what I wrote is quite accurate. But it doesn’t matter that I wrote it, and it doesn’t matter that you dismiss it. What matters is that the public is likely to feel it.

Whole lot of assumptions here that you have absolutely no evidence for. “Likely trained in terrorism”? Given the fact that extremely few Palestinians, no matter how sympathetic they might be, have ever actually engaged in terrorism, it’s extremely UNLIKELY. UNRWA is hardly a “terrorist front”- that’s total bullsh!t. The rest of what you wrote is equally a stretch.

You guys may very well be right that the law allows him to be deported without actually committing a crime. I don’t know myself and I will leave it up to the courts to decide. However, if that is the law then I believe it’s a bad law and should be changed. I think it violates the principle of what this country should be about.

Um no. There are severe cuts to spending. in the bill that Democrats profoundly disagree with. So, I predict, will the American people when they start to notice the effects. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/03/11/politics/government-funding-bill-spending

Democrats are having a bitter argument over Schumer’s decision, threatening to primary each other, they seem weak and in disarray. In the end none of this matters. Trump was always going to get his way; he has the majorities and the Dems could have held him up (looking petulant all the while) but not stopped him. It doesn’t matter because in two years there will be an election which will be a national referendum on everything Trump’s doing. The Democrats, for all their faults and missteps, will represent the no vote to those who disapprove. So they’re going to do extremely well. After that it’s a question of producing a candidate to oppose JD Vance. That shouldn’t be difficult.

No. Most do. But I drink very little and my wife, obviously, not at all. We come here for the great beauty; atmosphere and most of all the food: some of the best restaurants on Earth.

Yes I know, but I think your studies are disreputable. I don’t believe mine can be easily dismissed the way the ones by FAIR can. This isn’t a disagreement about philosophy. It’s one of fact. One of us is clearly wrong about this.

No inconsistency. You noticed I used the word basic, that means life saving emergency situations to me.

The latter. There is no need to skew the numbers on undocumented immigration; it is clearly a net benefit as virtually every serious study of this issue has demonstrated. Even now, even with this billions of dollars screw up in California, it is a net benefit.

They certainly didn’t come close to doing everything they could. I wish they had. Donald Trump committed crimes for which he belongs in jail. Both Merrick Garland and the state of Georgia hesitated way too long before indicting him. Had they done so in 2021 we wouldn’t be in this mess. And Trump would be locked away where he belongs.

I believe that those who cannot afford basic medical care should receive it from the state. That includes undocumented immigrants.

I agree with the first part of your criticism, not the second part. He is making an extremely unfair comparison, but not absolving Hitler. (I should add this is only my opinion. @Mike Hunt is correct I don’t know for sure.)

Yeah I don’t think you’ve thought this through carefully. I also question if you have seriously considered the ramifications of the law taking this position.

OK you’re welcome but where is your criticism of Musk for not doing the same? First off as I pointed out this statement completely contradicts his earlier assertion that DOGE was going after waste; that has been shown to be a dishonest claim. Second @Mike Honcho is correct: Musk here is implicitly comparing American public sector workers to those who committed grave crimes against humanity, which really is an offensive analogy.