The Real timschochet

I guess this is close to a “whataboutism”. It’s a FANTASY whataboutism because it never happened but whatever. You guys with your “she was doing a bad job” is laughable. You will never learn.

To be clear Hamas is opposed to a state of Palestine unless it includes what is currently the State of Israel.

1. No they shouldn’t. Strawman point, beneath you. 2. This is a false statement. The Netanyahu government, and the extreme right wing of the coalition they represent, is opposed to a Palestinian government no matter who is in charge. They view the Palestinians in Biblical terms as a people that Jehovah will eventually exterminate so that the Jews can occupy both sides of the Jordan River. Their views on this is as fanatical as Hamas and unless you understand this you fail to understand the whole situation. 3. Palestinians for your entire lifetime have been forced to live in economic destitution with overcrowding and starvation and no hope whatsoever. Of course when they (very rarely) have the chance to choose leaders they choose the most radical, most extreme. We need to change the fundamental aspects of their existence before we can hope to change this.

He’s not a Pedro. If he was perhaps he wouldn’t be an anti-Latino bigot (which he is.)

Israeli support for a two state solution is about 30% last I checked. Israeli opposition to the current actions in Gaza hover between 19-25% a few months ago. It’s still a minority but a growing one. Whether or not it’s mostly young people, that I don’t know. But I reject your opinion that young people are somehow less wise. Opposition to the Vietnam War in this country began with young people and they were generally right. Young people are right, IMO, about many issues in this country, particularly about climate change and woke issues- much more so than the politicians you have trusted with your votes.

I was specifically referring to their actions in Gaza and yes it has absolutely made Israel weaker. I get this is hard for you to understand. I would recommend watching the film “The Battle for Algiers” about France’s efforts to control Algeria in the late 1950s. There are tremendous parallels.

Many Israelis do. Your idea that “Israel” has an opinion is as stupid as your previous “ask China”. So ironic that you call other people simple.

No. Jobs numbers have to be revised all the time and it has nothing whatsoever to do with her: https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/job-numbers-change-revisions/amp/ Educate yourself. Just because our President is a moron doesn’t mean you guys need to be ones as well.

I would except I can’t think of one, can you?

Let’s be clear about this point too: what Israel has done in the last nearly two years (since October 7) has NOT increased its security. It’s made things more perilous. There is only one long term solution to Israel’s security and that is the establishment of a peaceful, prosperous state of Palestine alongside it. No matter how difficult that goal is, unless it happens Israel will never be safe.

Feeding starving people is not really a carrot cake. It’s something that we should do, full stop. As far as the stick- the existence of the State of Israel itself is enough of one. It’s not going away. Sooner or later the Palestinian people will have to accept this or their lives will always be miserable, Hamas or not.

Are you serious? Outclassed by Strike? Totally embarrassing if true (it isn’t.)

I say make her the new head of the Labor Department. Two birds with one stone!

Wrong! It was the BEST quarter ever for jobs! (Please hire me President Trump to replace the head of the labor department.)

I will answer this question too: it was the correct decision to drop the bomb on Hiroshima. Not sure about Nagasaki. That may have been unnecessary. What Israel is doing in Gaza is unnecessary.

I’ve answered many times what Israel is to do. But I will again: 1. immediate ceasefire. 2. allow refugee and aid groups to enter Gaza without restriction or interference. 3. pledge to commit to a 2 state solution. Recognize a state of Palestine, commit to no further settlements in the West Bank, Gaza, or eastern Jerusalem.

This response is part of the problem. You can’t ask a country anything. China is made up of one billion people.

I have no idea what you’re going on about. The tariffs are causing inflation.

So let’s fire the messenger- brilliant!

Let me go even further: let’s say that every living Palestinian, man, woman, child, was fully supportive of Hamas, fully enthusiastic of their goals, fully cognizant and gung ho about everything Hamas is doing or plans to do. Even then, they still would not be responsible for the crimes of Hamas unless they took a direct part in those crimes, they still should not have to suffer the consequences. IMO.

I thought I did. Hamas was duly elected 20 years ago. Because they have stayed in power since that time without elections I don’t regard them as a legitimate government. But there is an even bigger point to be made here. The implication that @Strike and others are making is: the Palestinian people chose this government, therefore they are responsible for the crimes committed by this government and must suffer the consequences. Even IF I regarded Hamas as a legitimate government, I still wouldn’t accept this premise. I don’t believe in collective responsibility.

Everyone deserves that right.

It’s true Im lucky to live in California and it’s gorgeous here. I don’t talk about how much money I have, ever. And the only reason you call me fat is because I’ve admitted to weight issues in the past. That’s the opposite of bragging.

Oh in the past I’ve discussed my own affairs a lot. But I rarely brag. I’ve revealed in other forums some unfortunate aspects of my life in order to get advice and some people here have attacked me with it. So I don’t do that any more. But it’s not a boast.

I do, absolutely. Why else would you post about yourself all the time? We’ve all been Informed incessantly how wealthy you are, how hot your wife is, how much you’re made recently on the stock market, etc., etc. I’ve never encountered a more insecure dude on the internet.