The Real timschochet

Dude all I can surmise is here is that you’re either delusional or not paying attention. But let me put it simply for you: Trump doesn’t listen to advisors. He is whimsical and incompetent, that is a big part of the reason I did not want him as President. In this situation he may have made the right choice (who knows?) because he was limited to a couple of choices. But he’s basically throwing darts.

On paper both Russia and China is. China in particular gets most of their oil from Iran. But so long as that’s not interfered with, hopefully they will stay disinterested.

This is about as likely as anything else that occurred.

Peace brother. We may disagree about how Trump got to this point, about his overall competence, and about 99.99% of everything else. But we need Trump to be right about this decision and about his assumption that he can keep this a limited action.

Tim Kaine is misguided in his criticism of Trump for “starting a new war in the Middle East”. A single strike or set of air strikes is not a war. It could lead to a war depending on how Iran reacts, how we react to their reaction, etc. But I think that @EternalShinyAndChrome is right (about this part anyhow): Trump doesn’t want a war, he wanted a “get in get out strike” with no repercussions. Let’s hope that’s what he gets.

OK two parts to your post. 1. First off your assumptions are wrong. Gabbard has access to ALL US intelligence and her job is to collate it and report to the President. The reporting is that Trump, in the last few days ignored her and the entire intelligence community. He’s not listening to anyone. He may be listening to Israeli intelligence. Who knows? But It is incorrect of you to assume that he’s listening to American intelligence sources contradicting Gabbard because that doesn’t exist (unless she’s making up sh!t; I do question her competence.) 2. I don’t know. They have a nuclear enrichment program, I don’t know if they were close to nuclear weapons. @jerryskids has argued that the nuclear enrichment in itself may be an unacceptable risk and I can buy into that argument though unless they were very close I question the urgency. To conclude: I don’t know where Trump is getting his info. Maybe he will answer that when he addresses the nation shortly, Maybe he will provide exact evidence of nuclear weapons that were imminent. If he does I will be satisfied. But if he gives his typical vague “hey they were close OK? Trust me on this” bullsh!t then I won’t be satisfied and I suspect most people outside of the cheering squad won’t be satisfied.

Most liberals are concerned but not nearly as concerned as roughly half of Trump’s base claims to be: (Though once Trump tells them what to think I suspect they’ll change their tiune; such is the nature of cults.)

She’s the head of our intelligence forces. WTF are you even talking about?

We don’t slobber over him and worship whatever he decides. This was certainly a tough decision but if he had waited you would have congratulated him. If he had chosen diplomacy you would have congratulated him, if he had bombed Tehran you would have congratulated him. You have no credibility. (And by you I mean most MAGA supporters.)

He did it on TV yesterday. “Tulsi Gabbard is wrong OK?” Did you miss that?

What did I make up?

I’m hoping this is the case and it sounds like it is. (Trump’s post asking for peace sounds like it.) But we don’t know how Iran or others will react.

As of yesterday the reporting was that Hegseth wasn’t involved. That may have changed but it seems off that you want to credit him.

Except that it’s certainly troubling that Trump rejected what our intelligence forces was telling him. So who knows?

Well I hope it was the right decision. I’m not going to second guess it because I honestly don’t know what I would have done and I can see the reasons for it. But I hope it works out.

Except for the convicted felon you voted for and all the violent felons he pardoned right? Yeah sure. Get the fock out of here with this bullsh!t. Follow our laws. Don’t make me laugh.

You think they were coming to deport Ohtani?

Unless they’re undocumented Catholics, amirite?

This doesn’t work either. God you isolationist fockers are even worse than @Hardcore troubadour and his “blow everything up” bullsh!t. We are not an island here. Everything that happens out there in the world affects us. There’s no way to change that. Our oceans don’t protect us and neither will walls. You are a globalist whether you like it or not. We all are. Get your head out of the focking sand and deal with it,

Nice try what? My point is that you’re a moron. You haven’t exactly disproven it. You look for the simplest solution every time. It’s your kind of thinking that has gotten us into trouble every time. Unfortunately Trump is a moron too.

Who is Mila Joy? Is she related to Serena Joy?

The question is ignorant. It’s like asking who are the good guys between Protestants and Catholics. The answer is both and neither.

Lazy and ignorant again.

Link to the liberal, here or elsewhere, who accused anyone opposed to helping Ukraine as being unpatriotic?

Many of us did. And many of the same people who are huge MAGA fans now referred to anyone who questioned that war as unpatriotic: Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Dennis Prager, etc.