The Real timschochet

I was curious about this because I suspected you were right. You mostly are: Literacy rate: Iran: 90% Iraq: 20% Afghanistan: 40% But you’re wrong, to my surprise, about Palestine: there the literacy rate is 97%!! It’s important also to note that Iranians, unlike most of the Middle East, are not Arabic. They are in fact the original Aryans. And their resentment against the USA goes back decades (ever since the CIA overthrew their democratically elected President, Mossedagh, and installed the Shah.) These distinctions are important because too many Americans, like @Hardcore troubadour and, I strongly suspect, our President, know nothing about the history, nothing about the differences between Iranian and Arab or Sunni and Shia, and nothing about the geopolitical complexities of the situation. Which is both pathetic and scary as hell.

You completely ignored my point or refused to respond to it. I certainly don't ageee with your analysis of Obama but what’s the use of debating his actions now? My accusation was that you think we can just bomb Iran and walk away. Let me offer you a bunch of reasons we can’t: 1. Iran could close the Strait of Hormuz. That would force us to invade to protect Saudi Arabia. 2. Iran may have sleeper terrorist cells in this country or elsewhere ready to strike Americans. 3. China gets most of its oil from Iran. Do you think it can afford to allow a destabilizing of Iran’s regime, any more than we could afford the same to Saudi Arabia? 4. Russia is pledged to the military defense of Iran. So far they have been quiet with Israel attacking. Will they stay quiet if we attack? Who knows? NONE of this is an argument against bombing. Maybe we should. Maybe we should wait. I have no idea. I suspect very strongly that Trump doesn’t either. But for you to act like the internet tough guy and pretend we can just do this without any consequences is so asinine and so stupid, it’s amazing even for you.

You seem to believe that we can just bomb the crap out of Iran and then it’s over, end of story, end of our involvement and we don’t have to concern ourselves with Iran any longer. That’s incredibly dumb and short sided.

Lolololol sure. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/25/us/politics/trump-money-plane-crypto.html https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2025/03/31/how-truth-social-and-crypto-helped-donald-trump-double-his-fortune-in-just-one-year/ https://www.opensecrets.org/trump/trump-properties What a joke you are.

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Better year for albums. Actually it’s the greatest year for albums ever: Led Zeppelin IV Whos Next Sticky Fingers Hunky Dory Tapestry Blue Every Picture Tells A Story LA Woman …just to name a few.

Are you really looking for a “told you so” in THIS thread? How embarrassing for you. To answer your question: it aged very well. I wrote that because I thought higher of the American people than they demonstrated. They were fooled by a con man. Next time they won’t be.

You make good points here. But I think your overall position is too isolationists. There are things we want and don’t want: We want: A nuclear free, democratic Iran, willing to peacefully trade with their neighbors and the rest of the world. That is the ideal. (Since this would radically improve the lives and prosperity of almost all Iranians, they should want this too.) We don’t want: Iran retaliating to our strike by closing the Strait of Hormuz (make no mistake that would force us to invade Iran.) Or sending terrorists around the world or here to strike at the USA or Americans. As I wrote earlier there are serious risks either way here and this is a tough decision.

Best of luck!

He is. Unlike @HellToupee and @Tree of Knowledge. That being said, I suspect in real life @Hardcore troubadour is probably a decent guy despite some of the stuff he has written here (not talking about his political views, I’m talking about his wishing bad things on peoples’ families- I doubt he would do that or even think that in real life.) His problem, IMO, is that he wants to look at the world in black and white terms without nuance or shades of grey. This flaw runs through most of his posts.

Works for me.

That will never happen. Your kind of ugly bigotry will never disappear but it will also never take hold of this country.

You’re wading into a cesspool of ugly bullsh!t here.

Your description of Gaines is accurate.

And? Seems pretty likely to me. She’s also a huge whiner. Blaming others for her own mediocrity.

I still think he’s mostly trolling.

You’re almost 100% wrong. I can’t say you’re lying because I sense that you honestly believe the garbage you spew, which is arguably worse. However it’s almost all lies.

You haven’t written anything to indicate that you hate Jews in this post. But when you say you agree with Frozen, do you agree when he writes “who owns the banks?” Do you agree with his nonsense about the Talmud? Because that’s the anti-Semitic part.

For the record: these are the anti-Semitic parts of the post. 1. I strongly doubt @Frozenbeernuts has read the Talmud. What he has no doubt read is anti-Semitic descriptions of the Talmud that misrepresent both language and meaning. These are typically a few centuries old and unfortunately they pervade the internet. 2. The part about Jesus and the chickens also comes directly from anti-Semitic literature. 3. “Who owns the banks?” is of course as old as any hatred of Jews. FTR though of course it shouldn’t matter: there has never been a time when the majority of world banking was owned by Jewish families, and today it’s almost 100% corporate. These are the sort of telltale signs that allow the reader to distinguish between legitimate criticism of Israel (which I partake in plenty myself) and anti-Semitic nonsense. The writer of the above post indulges strongly in the former, as do a few others in this forum.

Not really no. It was an ugly and stupid statement by @EternalShinyAndChrome a year ago, and it hasn’t gotten any better. Your comment isn’t interesting either.

I think he’s making the right decision here by waiting. I have no complaints about his current actions with regard to this situation (at least based on what I know now.)

That whatever actions Israel takes from this point forward will have long range implications for the security of Israel. That not all Islamic countries feel the same towards Israel, with the same attitude. That there are deep nuances, that this a complicated situation, and there is no simple solution.

This is correct and I don’t think any reasonable person disagrees with you. But while it’s true it’s not the only truth. There is more to the story.

The answer is yes and no. Yes at first always. But eventually the smart religions, the ones that last, accept the science and find a way to work it in. Of course sometimes there’s a lot of drama in between, people get murdered, etc. Heretics are put to the stake. Eventually though it gets absorbed. Christianity brilliantly solved this dilemma with something called the Enlightenment which basically means “hey if the scientists say it’s true, God must have wanted it all along! When we thought differently it wasn’t God who was wrong; we just misunderstood Him.” This excuse cleverly allows everyone but the absolute literalists to adopt every discovery no matter how much it might contradict Scripture. Islam didn’t have any Enlightenment and so they’ve struggled a little more with this.

Pretty much. As we’ve seen they give him info and he ignores it.