The Real timschochet

It still astounds me that millions of people watched him say that and then still decided to vote for him. I guess you reap what you sow.

In order: 1. Because your “facts” are almost always anti-Semitic lies and someone should call them out. I wish I wasn’t usually the only one who does. 2. There shouldn’t be. I am opposed to such laws. 3. That’s an anti-Semitic lie. 4. I don’t try to cancel you. I try to condemn you. Sure I would love it if you were shunned more because your posts are typically so ignorant and hateful. But I have never reported you and would never try to force you out of this forum or anywhere else. If your right to free speech were threatened I would fight on your behalf. The truth is you’re a pretty intelligent guy on a lot of subjects (your posts on government spending and economics have at times been illuminating) but a total idiot on the subjects of Jews and races, blinded by hatred. Because you’re not stupid, you may yet learn and change and improve. I hope you do.

Yeah I doubt they were asked for their citizenship papers. There is certainly an idiot in this conversation, but it ain’t me buddy.

Sure he backed off after Lutnick promised him that Trump would back off. Lolol.

Or there is a third alternative: they can threaten us and Trump will back off and surrender: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/03/11/trump-tariffs-canadian-steel-aluminum-imports/82265993007/

Pretty sure refugees from Ecuador and everywhere else have to wait years too. Nobody gets immediate access. The family I worked with were given approved visas in the summer of 2022. They arrived here on October 30, 2024.

How would the doctor possibly know that they were undocumented? Did he inspect their papers? And what does your post have to do with Social Security benefits which was the subject of the post you responded to?

Biden didn’t abruptly reverse the policy of allowing Afghan refugees permission to come here. They were in line, with visas, waiting to come. Ita a slow process which Biden had no power to speed up. Trump is the one who ended it. I’m sorry @HellToupee you can criticize Biden all you want but if these people are retuned to Afghanistan and executed, Donald Trump will be the one responsible. There is no way to sugarcoat this, no way to excuse it.

He’s done this so many times now. I can’t even count how many times he has hoped for undocumented immigrants to rape and kill members of my family.

Again, those were refugees with legal permission to come here. They were NOT “illegal” no matter what that idiot Norman says.

Yesterday Elon Musk told an absolute lie on this subject; he accused the Democratic Party of bringing in “illegal immigrants” (his words) and giving them fake Social Security numbers and collecting benefits. The truth is that many undocumented immigrants DO have fake Social Security numbers, in order to work “over the table”, but these result in them paying INTO the system (through employer deductions) not receiving benefits. It is extremely rare for any undocumented person to ever receive benefits. It’s a one way ladder in the other direction, and it’s helping to keep Social Security afloat. It’s also a big part of the reason that these folks are an economic net positive for America.

Sure. And many will take advantage of what’s available (most won’t in part because of ignorance but mostly because they don’t want to risk being discovered by authority figures). But it’s not why they come.

Bump. It doesn’t surprise me that so few people around here have been willing to respond to this story, but I think it deserves being paid attention to.

No. They come here for freedom and economic opportunity.

Biden wasn’t flying undocumented people in. Nor was he giving them money or putting them in hotels. He was doing ALL of these things for refugees and I wish he had done more. Trump has put a stop to all of it and now many of these refugees face possible death. I addressed this yesterday. It’s shameful.

Tell you what: let’s revisit this discussion again in one or two years. If during that time border crossings stay at their current low level, then I will concede that this was all Trump, that he was effective, and that the problem has been resolved. If on the other hand, as I predict, there will be at some point another explosion of people at our border which Trump is unable to control, then perhaps you will acknowledge that the issues are a little more complex than mere security?

Trump absolutely had something to do with it. His presence and threats have successfully scared people away for now. But it’s a band-aid not a cure. Undocumented immigrants arrive at our borders as a result of pressures we have no control over. Eventually that pressure will become overwhelming again.

I believe what I wrote 100%. Not trying to sell you on anything.

Look if he’s causing violence or persuading people to cause violence I get it. But if he’s merely speaking out against Israel, even if he’s pro-Hamas, then sorry you’re wrong. We don’t need to be protected from speech no matter how filthy. @Cdub100 and others around here say terrible things about Jews, how we’re trying to take over the world, how we should be deported, etc. Do you think I need to be protected from him? I don’t. I’m not a victim; I’ve never been one. Neither are you. We don’t need protection. Let them have their say.

Because the economic factors that causes this have simmered down for the moment. None of the underlying problems have been resolved. I can almost guarantee you that the numbers will get heavy again at some point in the next few years. It’s inevitable because we refuse to address the real issues.

That was a bad decision made at the height of the McCarthy era. Most legal scholars regard it as a low moment for the court. Even so the issues there were far more clear-cut. The subject wasn’t merely sympathetic to Communism or even distributing Communist propaganda; he was a card-carrying member of the Communist Party. If you could prove that Khalil is actually a member of Hamas you would have a much stronger case (which I might even agree with.)

It would be better for them if they did. But even if they don’t we should. Unilaterally.

I think the evidence needs to be more exact for the courts than for your personal assessment. Frankly I don’t trust your judgment on this. You have shown yourself in the past to be all too willing to accept conservative propaganda that has very little basis in reality (such as the Hunter Biden stuff, to cite one example of many.)

Lutnick promised Ford that Trump would back off. If Trump doesn’t back off then Ford will go through with his threat.

Peter Navarro is a crackpot moron.