The Real timschochet

I can understand hating them, or other evil people. I’ll give you that. There is true evil in this world. But hating somebody here? Or any American politician? Silly.

I support President Trump’s decision to send missiles to Ukraine and give Russia a 50 day deadline for a ceasefire. This is a good move.

Stupid to hate anyone in this forum. (Actually stupid to hate anyone period. Hatred is pointless.)

I stand by my comment. I know you don’t want to believe it, don’t want to admit it to yourself. But I think it’s accurate. We’re going to be able to sort out the good from the bad pretty shortly here. Those who agree with Joe Rogan on this, who voted for Trump in order to get tough at the border and deport violent criminals, but who are upset about rounding up folks at Home Depot- some of them may be misguided, but they’re the good guys. Those who blindly insist on mass deportation of all undocumented immigrants no matter what the circumstances, like you do- you are the bad guys and I call you bigots. And you’re going to lose.

Actually that issue is the least significant IMO. The people who are most bothered by that issue are also the most willing to be duped by Trump.

Polling on tariffs: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/12/donald-trump-trade-poll-00449708 Polling on Big Beautiful Bill: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-big-beautiful-bill-approval-polling-2096570 Polling for Mass Deportation: https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/rcna218321 When Trump is wayyy underwater on his three main issues, that’s how you know a storm is brewing. Better get ready.

But see I’m not predicting gloom and doom. I’m predicting a happy ending. A blue wave is a GOOD result. All the bad news has already happened; we just haven’t completely felt it yet.

I want other conservatives around here to admit to sharing your racist fears. You’re open and honest about it; they’re not.

Mass deportation is incredibly unpopular with the American public: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/13/politics/deportations-backfiring-trump-analysis

A lot of this is liberals discontented with Democrats for not standing up to Trump. And it doesn’t matter. The tariffs, the big beautiful bill, and mass deportations are all so incredibly unpopular with the American people that 2026 is going to be a huge blue wave.

Why don’t you guys just admit this is all about the racial makeup of the country? You’re afraid it’s getting browner.

It’s inevitable no matter what. At the end of Trump’s term there will be more undocumented immigrants than when you started. As for Mexico: the state I live in, California, was stolen from Mexico, as was Texas, Arizona, New Mexico. The southwest of the USA has always had open migration because, frankly, those of Mexican descent have as much right to be here as we do.

It isn’t. Unless you’re willing to throw open legal immigration to most of those from our southern border who want to come here, undocumented immigration is inevitable and a net positive.

A better idea is to properly fund federal rescue services and stop cutting their budgets.

That’s simply not true.

And yet you can’t say it’s not well-deserved.

If carried out to any large degree, mass deportation will raise prices on literally every aspect of our lives, from homes to the supermarket to dining out- every aspect. Violent crime will actually increase not decrease (violent crime goes up statistically whenever the economy gets worse.) There is no positive to mass deportation. None.

Trump on Saturday: MAGA just forget about this conspiracy theory, there’s nothing there, concentrate on other conspiracy theories! (Like the stolen 2020 election.) Personally I am always highly skeptical of conspiracies and my strong hunch (that’s all it is) is that Pam Bondi is telling the truth: there’s no actual client list, there’s nothing there. Epstein killed himself. But Trump and his allies helped foster the theory that there was more there in order to energize the MAGA base before the 2024 election, so if they don’t believe him they have only themselves to blame. Bur still, I have to ask: of all the times that Trump has told outright lies, made bigoted, offensive comments, committed crimes against the country, attempted to divide us and do harm, shown incompetence and schemed for authoritarian power, and shattered our image as a nation, THIS is the issue that might turn MAGA against him? How embarrassing for them.

Funny, for once I am 100% with @seafoam1. (It may be the first and last time.) But while someone is President any serious health concerns should be public knowledge or at the very least the knowledge of the leaders of the Senate. It should be noted though that this has NOT been the case in history: the health concerns of FDR, Eisenhower, JFK, Reagan, and Biden were all hidden from the Senate and the public.

Because it’s essentially a victimless crime and deportation is too high a penalty. Let the children stay, let the parents pay a small fine for their crime, and let them stay as well. Problem solved.

Orphanages, foster care, child protective services, adoption. Before anyone complains about the costs, cut the new ICE budget in half, spend the money on Child Protective Services instead.

I was very clear. Please stop avoiding the question.

Everyone who? Every child who arrives on our shores without family? Yes In good with it.

They put themselves in danger by committing crimes.

You seem to believe that it’s a worthy trade-off for ICE to act inhumanly if it means keeping more people out. I’m not OK with that trade.