The Real timschochet

Ukraine was invaded by a country led by an evil man. Russia is completely responsible and has murdered thousands of innocent people. Of course I will continue to root for Ukraine and Zelensky. I firmly believe they are the good guys in this struggle.

The difference is it wasn’t in public.

I came away with a completely different assessment. I thought that Zelensky stayed civil and polite all throughout, that Vance tried to provoke him, and that Trump behaved like a whiny a$$hole and bully. To be completely fair, just like you I come in with preconceptions. You are a fan of Donald Trump, you think he’s a great President, and you agree with his isolationist, transactional, and “America First” viewpoint. (I trust I’m not putting any words in your mouth; you’ve written as much on several occasions.) On the other hand, I detest Donald Trump, think he’s a terrible President, and strongly disagree with his isolationist viewpoint. That being said, it still should be possible for us to watch the same 40 minutes of television and come away with a similar opinion. But apparently it isn’t. So that begs the question: are either of us, it both of us, so emotionally invested in “our side” being right that we are incapable of looking at this objectively? Of course I believe I’m right and you’re wrong, but I also sense that what you wrote is your honest opinion and not contrived. So I’m open to the possibility that my need to be right affects my objective ability to perceive facts more than I thought. This may be true in your case as well.

Regarding the impeachment and Ukraine demanding Zelensky apologize, etc: I would guess he has the overwhelming support of Ukraine after today. Maybe in the 90% or higher range. Unlike our President.

Showing your ignorance again

Petain did. Thats why he was a traitor.

I don’t recall Canada’s leader ever meeting with Hitler. Petain and Mussolini were more than weak they were servile cringing cowards and traitors. Petain was tried by the French people and sentenced to death (DeGaulle commuted it.) Mussolini was executed for treason. So yeah.

FDR talked to both Churchill and Stalin. Look Putin is evil. Trump is going along with evil. And it’s not in our interests. You seem like a reasonable person. I don’t understand why you’re defending this.

You’re just so awful. Sometimes I don’t have to form a position on any given issue in this forum; I just wait to find out what you think and I know that the exact opposite view is the non-dickish one.

No it isn’t. It’s not a meeting. Chamberlain met with Hitler, because Chamberlain was weak like Trump.

FDR never talked to Hitler either

A couple of thoughts: 1. After some reflection, I wouldn’t make too much of this one way or the other. One of the things about Donald Trump that we should have learned over the years is that nothing is permanent. He can come back tomorrow and praise Zelensky. Or he can cut off all support. Or he can cut off all support for a few days or weeks or months and then resume it. So I wouldn’t make any assumptions, which several you have done. Nothing is set in stone. 2. The Republicans in the House and Senate have, as usual, behaved especially cowardly today. I’m not talking about the MAGA folk's or the isolationists; at least they’ve been consistent in not supporting Ukraine. I’m referring to all those Republicans who have until today expressed their support for Zelensky and Ukraine and are now doing a 180 turn in support of their leader. Shame.

“They respect me!” Such a whiny little man.

Mine. This is an embarrassment for the USA, a disaster for the world and a victory for Putin. Sad to see.

On Meet the Press this morning, Bernie Sanders insisted that the main reason Democrats lost is that they abandoned the working class and that begins with raising the minimum wage. He has made this argument before (his entire career in fact.) But- you can’t raise the minimum wage without also raising prices and the cost of living. This also goes to the heart of the undocumented immigrant dilemma- they’re paid less than minimum wage which keeps our prices lower. Get rid of them, or replace them with people making minimum wage, and you raise the cost of living. And if we do what Bernie wants and raise wages on those here legally, aren’t we simply increasing demand for more people to come here illegally? Would our society be better off without any minimum wage? How would that work?

Only in your limited mind is the CATO institute, the most highly respected libertarian and pro-capitalist think tank in the country, “far-left libby.”

Here you go: https://www.barrons.com/articles/if-you-favor-a-minimum-wage-you-should-like-tariffs-too-1544124806 The title of this article from Barron’s (hardly a liberal source) is “If you favor a minimum wage you should like tariffs too”. It’s full of the facts you’re looking for.

lol the circle jerk is strong this morning, Hey HT it’s just about time for you to find a thread you started months ago and retitle it in order to rip @squistion or me. You’re overdue.

You might get that from @Fnord; you won’t from me. The Hunter Biden story was crap; they investigated for months and Joe Biden was blameless. Whatever Hunter did Joe was not involved, and all that stuff about Joe taking money from Ukraine or China or whoever was BS. THIS Verizon-Starlink story may be corrupt. I don’t know yet. I strongly suspect Jared Kushner receiving 2 billion from the Saudis was corrupt. But calling these out, and dismissing the Hunter Biden non-story, isn’t hypocritical or a double standard. In each case I apply the exact same standard: examine the details.

Dude I started this thread. And I made the connection from the beginning. It’s not a hijack. If that earns your personal dislike, or anyone else’s, I don’t care. HTH.

I’m not trying to spread fear, only facts. When the government interferes with the marketplace, prices go up. It doesn’t matter if the interference involves wages or taxes on imports or trying to control the number of existing workers or regulations. ANY interference affects the price.

I suspect they will actually be much higher in the next few years as a result of inflation caused by the policies of President Trump.

Well to simpletons like you of course not. To anyone who understands the idea of a free market they’re absolutely connected (along with immigration policies as well.)

No. You’re actually getting back more in terms of total spending power. As a group (there are always individual exceptions) undocumented people don’t infringe on you at all. They actually make your life better.

Hey @Strike you and others around here don’t seem to understand what racism truly is. So I wanted to help you out: this post is racism.