Sean Mooney

No it doesn't mean that. Again- I'm objecting to you saying anyone with daughters should see this as a major issue and then when they bring up something else they see as a major issue for women you just want to blow that off. Again- I never said transgenders competing in women's sports is not an issue and should be ignored. But I don't think it is the biggest issue facing my daughters right now....unless are you going to argue again about this being an existential crisis?

I'd be mad too if someone punched holes in everything I said too.

Still couldn't prove me wrong so you ran to another thread to take shots? Cool bro.

To the discussion @Fnord and @EternalShinyAndChrome are having...they do have clubs in schools (both middle school and high school primarily) that are Christian based and they occur before or after school. I'm a practicing Christian and both my daughters go to church with my wife and I every Sunday so I wouldn't personally have a problem with Jesus time Story Hour at school, but I would whole-heartedly defend the right of someone who did not want their kid to be a part of it. Just cause something works for me does not mean it works for someone else and vice versa. I guess my thing would be what do we mean by indoctrinating kids on LGBTQ stuff? I mean it's not like there are assemblies happening regularly where we are promoting LGBTQ people. Most of anything in a school is more towards the teachers and how we are to provide a safe space for students in that bucket. Which should be the role of any teacher for any student. There is entirely too much fearmongering from politicians- on both sides- on the issue here and it leads to unproductive discussions.

Please find the exact quote where I said I don't care about this issue until we do other things.....I'll hang up and wait. And for the record- here is my initial post in this thread- when you were asking I'd like to hear from someone from daughters who doesn't think this is a big issue.

You thought that was a hissy fit? Man- could you be more dramatic?

I mean considering the rest of the people in this room- I am the smart one. I know- you don't like to read- you've made that clear already a few times here. Not my fault you want to accuse me of doing things you do.

I know- reading and thought are tough for you. you do know this statement: "And that doesn't even speak to the problems with people who vote Democrat right now".....is basically saying and man if you think Democrats are any better.

LOL, this guy just stopped reading and ignored me mocking Democrat issues too...

So when things are bad in reporting they are lying but when they are good they are overwhelmingly good. You are such a dumbass shill. You aren't even a bootlicker. You are an ass-sucker hoping desperately to suck a log right out of Trump's rectum.

My favorite comment from him was Kamala would show she is presidential by admitting where she has made mistakes. I asked when Trump would do that and his response was "When the press asks him on it he will have that opportunity."

Well you see it's refreshing we have a President and group now that would not lie to us....except for Trump not knowing what is happening and then refusing to fire anyone when he was finally clued in by his nursemaid....and except for Hegseth denying there were war plans in the chat and then walking away from reporters when questioned on it.....and except for the other people in the chat group who were deceptive in the hearing the other day....and except for Waltz who ran down Goldberg every which way as he said "This is on me...." but then also said "I've never met the guy..." and then pictures came out that he did... But yes- if we ignore all of those things- this is a cabinet owning their mistakes and being transparent in every way.

Pretty nice of FOX News and Bret Baier to do a complete puff piece on Musk last night. Shame with Baier because he is usually much better than that. Also notable is that Amy Gleason was nowhere to be found in the interview. And Musk saying "We want to measure twice or thrice and cut once..." was the height of comedy seeing as how they've conducted themselves so far. But hey- roughly half of the voting populace has decided we are okay with rich people lying to us as long as they make us believe it is for the greater good. And that doesn't even speak to the problems with people who vote Democrat right now

It beats the other day I suppose where he said "All the government kids are using Signal all the time." I asked how often and he was like "Well i don't know....but when I worked at the post office...."Apparently you needed a Signal chat to sort letters by house number.

And what does any of that have to do with them discussing positive polling numbers for him on their channel? Oh that's right- you are a bootlicking weirdo who felt you had to jump in and say something stupid because you hadn't had enough attention yet and you wanted to warm up before posting whatever BS conspiracy thing you want to try and push today.

So when they were posting positive polling numbers for Trump was that fake too?

None of that has anything to do with what I'm talking about. But nice strawman Of course you would go to a dumb extreme to try and make a point.

My comment is more related to your "big issue" comment and about the framing which implies if you have daughters this should be the most important issue to you. I said it is an issue but it's not a big issue for me with my daughters compared to their health rights and whatnot being stripped away at. That is more of a big issue to me. Basically I reject your framing that anyone who has daughters and doesn't see transgender women as a "big issue" is missing out on something. Especially when I'm telling you there are more pertinent issues in my mind that will affect them for a longer part of their life. Issue A needs addressing, so does Issue B....I want one cleaned up solidly before the other.

What is there to not get about the umbrella of women's health issues?

I don't think it is an issue that needs quite as much attention as it gets here. I'm not saying that issue A is more important so issue B should be ignored. I'm saying that if one person is arguing strongly for issue A and one is arguing strongly for Issue B and then says to me "Do you have daughters? Why wouldn't you support B?" I'm saying- until someone presents something where they will address issue A AND issue B then I have to pick one.

Can you define what it means for it to be a "big issue"? On the club team thing- I hate the idea that has permeated youth sports anymore in school of "Oh you want to play softball at high school? What travel team are you on? You don't play travel ball? Well thanks but..." If you want to vacation as a family and everything you can't play travel ball.

As of 2021 there were 17.3 million students in high schools (public and private- that would not account for home schooled students I'd assume). I did say where the source came from but I'll go with what you want to go with. 570,900 students in high school identify as trans. So from that we can roll in some other findings (in bold are the sources cited in the study...as best I can access them) TBF- What I can't find in the data is how they are applying "high school-level team athletics." Is that school teams? Is it non school related teams? Case in point- you could be on a 16U softball travel team where you are playing with high school aged girls but not for a high school. Additionally- that number of 122K, or less, only speaks to transgender youth- it does not speak to what the sex is of that youth. Also, it doesn't account for kids who just ignored that question or chose not to answer it. There are so many threads on the topic because a forum is curated discussion. And people are not necessarily talking about transgender women in sports as the thread problem. It is talking about how- basically one person- seems to continually post about this stuff. Either way though- you wanted to hear from someone with daughter's. You did. You ignored my question i asked.

Just answer a simple question for once.

Harris could've had 4 years to run but if they ran just as an incompetent campaign as they did it wouldn't have mattered. I like the idea that the media didn't report on negative things of the Biden regime. That's just pure fan fiction from the MAGA mooks. Also, this response from you has almost nothing to do with what I said in my post.

Journalism's ongoing loss of viewership/readership has more to do with how people consume news anymore as much as anything else. There was no mistake here from the journalist. He did his job. Of course you don't care about the provisions. Waltz delivered a plethora of excuses in admitting wrong doing but let's handwave them away.