Sean Mooney

And the article wasn't even really about what he said- I don't think Tbay read the article before his first comment. I'm not sure he has read it still by this point.

New points- 1.) Just Wrong all around from you- and again (NOTE- I never said YOU were going to do this personally.) You just got a bug up your ass because you were caught getting your political cues from FOX News when you want everyone here to believe you are some deep thinker. If I wanted to I would've said "RLLD is going to make Crockett the big bad for the next 4 years." I asked if she was going to be the one the right focused on and I asked if Gutfield said this. It was two separate questions.. Now I know you hate simple questions but questions have yes or no answers sometimes. You could have simply said "I don't know if she will be and I don't know what Gutfield said." But you didn't do that. You chose to say they should let her be and say nothing after saying she will pay dividends. Even a dullard can see you are saying she is the right person because she harms the party. 2.) I'm not randomly associating your words. I'm providing a quote to something said approximately 16 hours ago on TV that parallels what you are saying right now on this forum. And again- I get why you would parrot Gutfield. He's popular to the MAGA side. 3.) The Hamas thing is a huge deflection because you are trapped and do what you always do- swing wildly to try and find something to latch on to....but of course you are too obtuse to see that. 4.) The AOC comment was something where you can try and change the function of the conversation after the fact and pretend like you meant that all along. It's a common thing you do. 5.) I'll repeat the last point. It's okay man- just admit you got caught. It's fine if you want to parrot the political wisdom of Greg Gutfield. But own it. You already turn to YouTube financial experts for economy advice- Gutfield is quite a few steps up from guys in their basements with skeletons in the background. Gutfield at least appears on two highly rated shows. You are the emperor and your new clothes have been seen. You aren't the deep thinker you want people to think. You are a FOX News parroting puppet. As I said before- you are what happens if someone used ChatGPT to write Maximum Overkill's posts

BAH GAWD... THAT'S BOOTLICKER JONMX'S MUSIC....

Look at the very least you can admit she could've picked her words more carefully. It's silly politicians in 2025 don't know people will just soundbite things. Even if she wasn't referring to his condition (and I think she was to some degree) she has to know it will get painted that way.

I'm not deflecting. Let's go to the replay: So: 1.) You clearly jumped in to say you want her at the face of the party because you think she harms them and your side wins. 2.) I asked if this was going to be the big bad now for the next 4 years (which is what politics is- position someone on the other side as the big bad) 3.) You said- no let her go and she will pay dividends. 4.) I asked if Gutfield said this (which was just a name I threw out there) and then found a video from The Five where he is basically saying the same thing as you- put her up front because it will hurt the Democrats. 5.) You responded with Can I compare you to a Hamas terrorist- and then said that I'm deflecting. 6.) Then you added an AOC comment at the end so you can now fall back on that and pretend like you meant that from the start when it's clear you didn't. 7.) It's okay man- just admit you got caught. It's fine if you want to parrot the political wisdom of Greg Gutfield. But own it. You already turn to YouTube financial experts for economy advice- Gutfield is quite a few steps up from guys in their basements with skeletons in the background. Gutfield at least appears on two highly rated shows.

I'm of two minds on this: 1.) This is kind of a no win for Goldberg. He either protects what he saw and keeps his journalistic high ground but gets run for being a liar, or he posts what he saw and now people will just say it's more of a vendetta and try to run him over the coals from that end. 2.) This is a colossal screwup by Waltz and Hegseth. Waltz needs to be better attuned to what he is doing and setting up and Hegseth needs to vette this stuff before he starts sending out war plans. But in the end- Goldberg was texted war plans, Hegseth and his team lied about it, the usual MAGA mooks here like jonmx and his like swallowed every drop of it like the good whores they are, and then Goldberg threw his receipts on the table....game, set, match to Goldberg on this one. Waltz needs to be dumped. Hegseth gets a pass this time I think but needs to vette better in the future.

What is your problem with answering a simple question? I don't care if you want to parrot Gutfield. He's a popular figure on the right. MAGA mooks here parrot far less popular people on the right. He is suggesting she is the face of the modern party. You are suggesting they should run her as the party face because "she will pay dividends later..." Sure- if you can find me parroting a Hamas terrorist then go ahead and equate me with them. It's okay you got got. Just admit and move on. I think you will find very little will change by just admitting the truth.

And of course I looked online and saw Gutfield said this: "I want to see way more of Jasmine Crockett. I want to see her everywhere. I think she is the perfect face of the modern Democratic party." So you are taking your cues from Greg Gutfield?

So she is the person the right are going to make the big bad for the next 4 years? Is this something Gutfield said?

"Message Board Invasions"? Not often you see guys happily admit they've never had sex with a woman but here we are with this thread.

I doubt she's the face of the party in any way in 2028. I know you hate Tim but you know this isn't exclusive to him and the MAGA mooks here do the exact same thing.

She shouldn't have said that about Gov. Abbott and really should be punished for it in some way- be that censure or whatnot. Of course Trump shouldn't have mocked a disabled reporter but the MAGA mooks here cheered that like crazy.. Basically civility is dead in politics and the whole enterprise is worse for it.

The point of the article though is that this is not openly paid endorsements like a Brady or Mahomes. These are people that people already follow online putting this stuff out. It happens way more than you would imagine and I'd wager a strong guess people across all lines of the political spectrum fall for it.

Agreed that it is.

Cool story bro. No one believes you leave your house or talk to anyone.

The article is more about the influencers than the actual debate itself.

Another live look at jonmx: https://image1.masterfile.com/getImage/NzAwLTAwMDM1MDY0ZW4uMDAwMDAwMDA=AJ0P2M/700-00035064en_Masterfile.jpg

While the rest fight I'll help you out. Michael Waltz is the one who started the group it seems and added the reporter's name. The belief is Waltz intended to add someone else to the chat and clicked the wrong person. (The name escapes me though) So it is more Waltz's mistake. Hegseth should've vetted it a little more but I can understand him trusting someone did their job correctly.

I think a more accurate argument than "low IQ" would be the idea of "low income" impacting people heavily. Just seeing it from a student aged side of things one of the biggest determiners in a kid's education is their family income level. Notably because if a parent has to work multiple jobs to support a family there is less time at home reading with, and working with a kid which will lead to lower test scores and more of an educational struggle. That would eventually manifest into perhaps a lower IQ. But there are poor white people in that same boat as poor black people even though depending on your area the numbers would skew heavily in one direction or another.

The RealClear writer does a pretty good job wading through it all. Belief is that the American Beverage Association might be behind it but that isn't confirmed. They also give numbers that say 6 out of 10 Trump voters feel sodas should stay eligible for food stamps. I don't particularly have a thought one way or the other on the issue of soda on food stamps. I know there are guidelines for things that can be bought but like if a person wants a 2 liter of Coke with the beans and milk and grain cereal- whatever. On the diet soda thing- there are some studies that indicate diet sodas are worse because of the artificial sugars. But I just don't like the taste of Diet Coke and the only time I will drink it is if I'm mixing it with whiskey or bourbon of some kind. Like I said- I'm more into the story on the grounds of this speaks to the influencer culture that is out there and how it is being manipulated by bad actors in the space.

TBF- the mistake is with Michael Waltz who added the reporter to the chat without being more careful about it all. Hegseth should've been confirming the group before putting details of their plans and stuff into it all. It's also a little surprising that the reporter was there (believed to be someone else) and no one questioned why the person was not saying anything as it seems like everyone else did at some point or another.

It's also funny when you can see all the defenses being thrown in here and then as you look online you see all those defenses are things being spun by pundits. Literally just people on here repeating what people on TV told them to say. Ironic considering the MAGA mooks insist it is only the right who gets their marching orders.

Pretty bad when a reporter for The Atlantic is more respectful and careful about US war plans than the national security advisor of the US and the secretary of defense. Yes I know that almost a day later they tried to cover up and circle the wagons to deny and discredit....but normal people see that they are lying to deflect away from incompetence.

It's amusing to see the usual suspects in here doing gymnastics to try and make excuses for their leader's team.

So it's commonly used but you don't know how common......cool.