Sean Mooney

So another non-answer. It doesn't matter what mistakes I think he has made much like it doesn't matter which mistakes you think Kamala has made. That is just you or I putting our thoughts on the candidate's positions. Take out what you personally think her mistakes are. You are saying she never admits mistakes. Now take out personally what I might think Trump's mistakes are....when does he admit to making mistakes?

You have the ability to go back and read the conversation. One person made the claim that Harris does not possess the qualities to be President. I asked what those qualities are and was told an important one is being able to admit mistakes. I never indicated one way or another about mistakes she may have made. I asked though if that is a quality that is important- what mistakes has Trump admitted to. Multiple posts later- we still have not received an answer to that. Just a lot of filibuster and words. It's not about what Harris has done wrong or right, and it's not about what Trump did wrong or right in his term. It's about- if one person has one standard shouldn't the other person have the same standard?

I'm asking him a very simple question and he can't answer it.

I'm going to try again....You listed things you see as mistakes in what Kamala did. Perhaps she does not see them as mistakes despite you doing so. Still you are holding her to a standard of admitting to them because you view that as a pertinent/important quality of being a leader. You have also pointed out a few times that her not admitting to them is a major factor for you. What mistakes has Trump owned up to? If admitting mistakes is a pertinent/important quality of being a leader than why has he not owned up to any? Is it your position that he had a perfect Presidency and has never said/done anything wrong since 2016?

Again I ask- Trump made mistakes in his Presidency as well and in his run up to potentially being President now....which mistakes has he owned up to? Does he not need to reassure people that he will not repeat these mistakes? Is he too afraid to? If he is, then he is therefore unsuitable....unless he can commit to NOT repeating his mistakes....which he refuses to admit.

This is your tactic always. Say something, get wriggled into a corner and then say "You are trying to misdirect the conversation...." Again- you said this: "So what makes a leader? Many factors, and prominent among those factors is admitting mistakes." "Prominent" means important....so yes it would be fair to say you view admitting mistakes as a main quality of being a leader. If you are in the middle or a Harris voter looking for a reason to vote for Trump you would be looking for him to admit his mistakes then. He was President for 4 years. He has been campaigning since 2015 as he successfully ran for President once , unsuccessfully ran for it once, and is now running for it again. Is it your position he has made no mistakes in that time frame that he should account for? Why is it only incumbent on her to admit mistakes and pledge to not repeat them and not on him to do the same thing? Again- you are framing this in an extremely one sided manner and you either don't see that, or refuse to see that, or are knowingly doing it in a dishonest manner.

I'm not redirecting the discussion....and we are multiple posts in now and you refuse to answer the question- which is telling. You asserted that a main quality of being a leader is admitting mistakes...you offered where Kamala does not admit mistakes. I ask again- when has Trump admitted to making mistakes?

Look this is very simple- you made the statement that she did not "have the qualities the position [President] requires." I asked what qualities you need. You said: I asked: "What mistakes has Trump owned up to?" Your response was "But Biden...and Pelosi...and Obama" I re-asked my question Your response was "I don't know. Give me a list." It isn't about me constructing a list. You are saying essentially- that she should see these mistakes (exactly as you see them) and account for them....but for Trump he doesn't have to account for mistakes that he may have made. You do see how this appears to be you holding her to a standard that you do not hold Trump to? I mean, I get why you are- you are clearly Republican and refuse to give them any blame on anything (we've also established that). However, it also torpedoes your credibility on the issue.

That is a non-answer. How many mistakes has Trump owned up to? You said yourself

How many mistakes has Trump owned up to? On the border stuff- I'd encourage you to read the links I posted. It paints a picture that is less dire than what we are led to believe by the mainstream right leaning media. To be fair it is also less rosy than the mainstream left leaning media posits.

What qualities do you need to be President?

I mean I agree on the purpose. I'm speaking to the idea though that even if she is more presidential I think there are people in the middle who will view it as "Under Trump it was this, Under Kamala it is this." And that will carry weight for them.

Harris and Biden got handed an economy that was doing fine but had warning signs in 2018 and 2019 of perhaps turning the other way. COVID hit in 2020 and exacerbated those issues to a degree no one could have planned. Some of that was due to Trump policies that were taking full effect, some of that was due to stimulus money being dumped into the economy by both Trump and Biden, some of it was artificially propping up the market, some of that was supply chain stress because of the situation. The border has issues- some of them have been fixed, some have not. Here are some links on border stuff: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65574725 https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2024/trump-vs-biden-immigration-side-side-policy-comparison https://archive.ph/jjRPT https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-record A key point from the last source: Another point: Key points for me are- the economy and US under Trump was not as bad as Democrats want to say and not as good as Republicans want to say. Under Biden the US is not as good as Democrats want to say and not as bad as Republicans want to say

Whether Kamala wins or loses my life is going to be the same on November 6th. I really could give a sh!t who the President is. But if Kamala does win you'll probably throw a fit, say something stupid here, get banned, come back under a new name, throw a bunch of sh!t posts at people, get called on it, and then say "I got to worry about my kids so I'm leaving..." and then start the cycle all over again a month later. Posting here is kind of your menstrual cycle. And all that would be hilarious.

The interview could've went worse.... she could've quoted some guy named "Black insurrectionist" on Twitter as if it was gospel. or pretend to help at a hurricane site to score Internet points?

Horseman once linked here to a gay porn site so if anyone would know "gay sources" it is him. It's most likely the only thing he knows

Yeah...where is Horseman to show outrage over that stuff?

As I said in the other thread- I thought both her and Baier came off well in the interview as they pushed enough from either side for the interview to be challenging but also for her to hit some key points she needed to hit. I'm with you too on the Biden question. She isn't going to throw him under the bus. And really what good would it do her to say "Yeah I noticed he was senile in June of 2023." It is just going to lead to more questions and it will piss off voters in the Democrat party which she doesn't want to do.

The FOX interview I thought both Kamala and Baier came out of it looking good. For Baier- he was taking heat almost immediately for the idea he was going to lob softball questions (some from pundits, some from idiots here). Trump's campaign also put out something saying that FOX News was "bought" by the Kamala team. Baier did not lob softballs. He went at Kamala on her positions, he challenged her with video clips of things she said and tried very hard to get her to lock in on answers. At times he came off a little too combative- like he was more determined to get his question in as opposed to letting her answer and I think he did the one thing you don't do at a journalist which is look at a condensed time frame and try to fill that space up. By throwing too much in it became cluttered at times. But still- he made a good showing of himself as a journalist which is why many people view him as one of the only reasons to pay attention to FOX News. One spot where I think they erred- and I'll blame the FOX News producer for it and not Baier- is that they did play only a portion of the clip on what Trump said about the DOJ stuff to Faulkner. They played the full clip earlier in the day but only played part of the clip here. Not sure if it was done with malicious intent but Kamala was right to point out that it was not the full clip and Baier did seem to let it go. For Kamala- she had some weak moments obviously. But she didn't tilt into random stream of consciousness stuff. She stayed sharp and focused on what she was trying to get out. Her strongest moments were in definitively stating she would not be a continuation of the Biden presidency. She presented herself as having different ideas and goals and pledging to work with Republicans across the aisle is a nice reach out moment. Also, for those that questioned her toughness she went right back at Baier in the interview and as they tried to talk over one another she met the challenge and rose above his voice to finish out points. The answer on Biden's mental acuity was about as good as you can get on that topic. I know it's what people want but she isn't just going to throw Biden under the bus. That would turn off as many people as it would bring to her side I'd imagine. She also did a good job in painting Trump as someone who doesn't like when people disagree with him. The strong part was when Baier asked "Are you saying the people who don't support you are wrong?" And she pretty emphatically answered No and that "this is for the presidency of the United States. It isn't supposed to be easy." Again- obviously there were bad moments. She didn't really have a good answer for the 3 and a half years thing. She should have explained the Trump point of running for a decade without saying to Baier, "You get what I'm saying..." But she didn't come off poorly and she should really offer to do another interview or two there. She did a good thing too at the end to make sure to credit Baier for his journalism chops. Trump would be firing missives off all night calling Anderson Cooper or Nicole Wallace a nasty person for the interview. She came off as sane and presidential.....I'm not sure that's enough though at this point.

If she is ahead by 5 and it is her largest lead it is currently the outlier. That's how these things work.

A Fox News poll has her ahead in battleground states across the board but behind nationally overall. Just for the chaos it'd be hilarious to see her lose the popular vote but win the electoral college. Role reversals would be hilarious.

I still say Trump wins with like 282-286 electoral votes

This must be that lying MSM people always talk about here....

I mean you could've put a lot of names of posters on this board in the middle there

Here is another bottom line: Twitter user "BlackInsurrectionist" is a babbling idiot and anyone who buys his garbage is a drooling, booger eating moron.