Sean Mooney

My centrist take is- why does anyone care who Taylor Swift endorses for President? On top of that- I think the amount of people triggered by her in this thread are just making themselves look ridiculous. And Taylor Swift is one of the most carefully orchestrated singers of all time. I'm sure she timed this in a certain way- Whether the Harris/Walz campaign had anything to do with it or not- it would've been constructed carefully to announce her support for a candidate

A bunch of Internet tough guys triggered by a rat looking shitty pop singer from central PA?

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4876282-springfield-ohio-cats-bomb-threat/ See- this is the kind of stuff that happens when a lunatic goes on TV spouting fake stories to the nation.

Says a guy who never leaves his basement

Well the MAGAites are getting to the say the quiet part out loud part of the game now.

Jesus has his own AI too. So maybe they will replace Jesus. https://www.thejesusai.com/

To Hawkeye's point- there are polls that show Trump winning the debate. Any poll after the fact is going to depend on who is conducting the poll. If Breitbart conducted a poll on who won it would be far more skewed towards Trump. If Mother Jones conducted a poll I'd expect it to be far more skewed towards Kamala Harris. CNN has it at 63% to Harris. CSPAN- through an X poll- has it at 75% to Trump. FOX News had a 17 person focus group of Dems, Republicans, and Independents and had it 12 to 5 in favor of Harris.

I added this note in the one thread yesterday: "So 3/4ths of registered voters are going to watch and well over a quarter of registered voters thing the debate will make a difference. Those numbers seem big. " That seems like a big number overall. But yes I would assume a large number of people were not swayed one way or the other

I'm better than him so I'm not going to stoop to his level. But anyone who is here and on like name 5 or 6 should probably re-evaluate their life.

Maximum Overkill is a troll bot. utilt99 is just a babbling idiot.

Congrats...this is one of the funniest things ever written on the forum.

Also, the whole thing about "the moderators were unfair." Look Trump lied a bunch of times in the debate. They let a bunch of little ones fly by without saying a word. The big ones he got called on. I get the whole idea of being against abortion...."but when you say people are for abortion after birth".....no one is for that. It's infanticide at that point. Again- there is a clear point to make but by going full crazy you undercut yourself so much. The people's dogs and cats are being eaten is mostly a hoax and the commissioner and mayor there have refuted it. But he repeated it again. The issue is immigration and people do care about it. Stick to that. But when you say "In Springfield, they're eating the dogs." you look insane. I get people want Trump (or Harris) to be able to say things without being called on it but stick to the issue and don't go full crazy. Also, the moderators asked some pretty pointed questions at Harris "I know you say that your values have not changed. So then why have so many of your policy positions changed? I also thought the debate moderators did about as good a job as you could hitting all the main topics and giving them ample time.

He even started a whole "MAH PRESIDENT WAS JOBBED!!!" thread already. Dude is gone.

Yeah he can't refute anything. It's just insults...it's sad in some ways

In a few other debates where Kamala has participated she got pretty much steam rolled by Tulsi Gabbard and while she did better against Pence in 2020 she still only at best pushed that draft. Her debate skills have been regularly kind of bad especially for a former prosecutor. It felt like last night was a perfect opportunity for Trump to fully halt her momentum (which has been receding) and end this for good. From what I saw last night in bits and pieces and from what I gathered this morning watching more of what I missed she started off weak with a bad answer avoiding the question of "are Americans better off today than 4 years ago." And Trump made an initially solid case or two. But then she started to find her footing. She did what I'd expect a prosecutor to do and painted pictures with her words (I'd imagine for a lot of women voters the idea of a woman bleeding out in her car because she can't get healthcare she needs due to the overturning of Roe vs Wade will stick). Trump reeled a little as he couldn't figure out the best way to approach this. Then she took the dig about the rallies and he was off the rails at that point and never really recovered. She outright said "Go to his rallies and he won't talk about you or your needs." His response was "I have the best rallies. The biggest rallies." He couldn't even pretend to give an answer about the American people. I imagine his people backstage facepalmed at his response. Even on the immigration thing- which should be a big issue for him- he went for crazy instead of reality. They asked about his comments on her blackness and his response was "I couldn't care less..." then he proceeded to talk for another minute or so about her blackness. She talked about America being an optimistic place and we should embrace one another and he yelled about how the country is failing. She kept talking about her tax credits for small business. He just kept yelling about things. She talked about him being a joke to world leaders. The only person he mentioned is an autocrat in Hungary. When asked about his plan for replacing the ACA he said "I have concepts....but I'm not the President." She constantly walked him into traps and he kept taking the bait over and over again. Look in the end I don't know how much a debate matters- some of us talked about that the other day- but if they do matter than I think the Harris camp has to be incredibly pumped about how last night went. If she loses- it won't be because of how she performed in the debate. Now they need to sit and talk with Tim Walz and have a good answer for when the question comes up about stolen valor....because it is going to come.

I tend to agree. Ukraine has done a great job holding off Russia but at some point (6 months from now, 5 years from now) they will not be able to anymore. And we should not fund it in perpetuity.

When asked about the plan to replace Obamacare and you respond with "I've got concepts...but I'm not President right now..." doesn't exactly instill me with confidence that you have a plan of any kind.

A person sees a friend of theirs handcuffed on the ground and they get out of the car to ask questions about it (even though they would normally know they probably shouldn't).... I understand why some people here would struggle with that concept. If you have no friends you wouldn't understand the feeling.....

lots of "what ifs" you'd have to jump through. Here's my thing- if you think illegal border crossings are bad then that should be enough. If a side has to resort to "Oh they are eating your cats and ducks" as a means of goosing the story (No pun intended) then perhaps the illegal border crossings story isn't an ender the way people think. However, it's how this country operates anymore with politics....it has to go to the furthest extreme.

The interesting part of the body cam footage (in the 3:35 video) is the cop who is wearing the bodycam really doesn't do anything. He seems to be trying to diffuse the situation at times with Jonnu and is trying to calmly get people moved. Not sure if it is because he knows his bodycam is on or if he disagreed with how things were being handled. He is also seemingly the guy who steps back from Hill's car and says sort of quietly "It's Tyreek Hill."

What did either of them do to interfere? One was parked and on the phone, the other was beside the car away from the cop and asking questions. Both their hands were up the whole time and visible and neither of them reached for a weapon. They were given conflicting orders by some douchenozzle cop with a complex. I think there is a considerably stronger case for how poorly Calais and Jonnu were treated than how Hill was treated.

The Hill stuff is bad but Hill vs the cops is like the ultimate heel vs heel matchup. Still though the worst part is when they tell the guy in front (I believe Jonnu Smith)- "Move your car out of here" and like a second later the other dude is yelling "Give me your license." Well that is conflicting options now because I can't get in my car and move if I'm being asked to give a license. That cop had a huge inferiority complex and should be shitcanned. You are a such a piece of human garbage. So many pvssies become cops so they can feel important, it's no wonder you pretend you were one. There are multiple times across the various videos where the arrestees are being given conflicting instructions.

America was great before Trump. It was great during Trump. It was great after Trump...it will continue to be great.

Under Biden: Number of uninsured Americans is at an all time low Most jobs added over first three years of his term than any President ever (there are some caveats there potentially) Wage increases started to out pace inflation last year (this- much like inflation- is something Biden deserves neither full credit nor blame for) Staved off a recession American households are wealthier than ever before Wage inequality narrowed (under Trump all income groups saw wages increase but the higher earners saw their wages increase much more rapidly than the bottom earners) Dollar has strengthened against other world currencies over the past 3 years (this ties to the recovery from COVID and preventing a recession) Violent crimes, mainly homicides, have fallen (They were up 29% in 2020, went up some more in 2021, dropped some in 20222, then dropped almost 12% in 2023. Much of the decline is attributed to Biden encouraging states to use money from the 2021 stimulus package- 350 billion in all- to fund law enforcement. The stock market is blazing Unemployment is still low Oil production is at an all time high in the US Trump has positives on his record during his 4 year term as many here have mentioned over time. Biden has positives has well. They both have negatives. They both are old as ##### people too who struggle to string together coherent sentences for various reasons.

Last I saw the ducks thing was still unconfirmed. The cats thing is straight BS.