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Bullfuckingshit. This runs DIRECTLY counter to multiple stories I've seen. Clearly you didn't read any of the articles provided and are spewing nonsense. NWS staffers accepted early buyouts. Give me a link for once, or STFU.

You may be entirely correct. I know it doesn't seem like it, but I'm trying to look past the politics and identify the root causes of what happened. My guess is that many factors contributed, that having some of those staff in place would have helped incrementally, but even with fewer casualties we'd still be talking about a tragedy. There's no way to know, and it's not like an investigation is going to definitively provide answers we're looking for.

The forecasters that were still working did the best they could, no doubt. Would having more of them on staff and available been beneficial? Could more lives have been saved? These are questions worth answering.

No one but you did. Help me understand. Why does this matter?

I am not a physicist or ballistics expert, but bullets do eventually descend, no? Sorry, I want no part of what Jerry and Tim have going here, but your response actually made me laugh and I had to comment. Carry on.

I've called Squis out before. He is absolutely one of the posters here that will turn a tragedy political quickly, but he's far from alone in that. Squis posted links to X with video directly featuring people that are close to current events stating facts about those events. It might be gauche, but it's adding context and information to a news story. That's not exactly in the same realm as someone posting randomly about murders that took place, with no link, and immediately placing blame on a group of people that had nothing to do with it. Put aside your grudge with Squis and "sides" and maybe you'll see the difference.

Thanks for the link, interesting information. I take issue with the author immediately dismissing this: I understand that, for now, the author is telling the truth that there is not evidence of budget/staffing cuts had anything to do with it. There is simply no way to know this yet. What we do know is that the NWS is understaffed and are not launching as many weather balloons as they have in the past, thereby forecasters are forced to make their predictions using less data than they have had at their disposal in the past. Since we have no way of knowing what that additional data may have said, there is no way to know if that lack of data contributed to the tragedy. The link you posted "went back" to look at models after the fact and stated that the data was there, but for whatever reason, this information does not seem to have reached the necessary parties. 20/20 hindsight and all... There's also this

This is my point. You took a lot of grief for posting about the NWS in this thread. Meanwhile @Maximum Overkill spews untruths and propaganda about shootings that he blames on "liberal violence" in the first focking post of the thread. Without a link, natch. Crickets from the guys coming in here to feign outrage at you.

Another idiot that speaks for herself, not anyone else, and who should STFU. Her cancellation is in progress right now, since she's being called out by others.

Oh. And she was fired. What's the problem here? Oh, nevermind, the problem is that you wanna paint her opinion as being representative of all liberals, which is utter bullshit. Sorry for your loss.

What, in your estimation, is the REAL ISSUE?

From one of the links Gutter posted: Of course the bill doesn't state that. What it does is changes the funding and requirements to be on the states-- and the states can't afford it. The rolls will be reduced by attrition, as well as cuts to staffing within those agencies that will prevent people that have been removed from eligibility in error from getting the help they need to have it reinstated. And-- Funny! It takes effect after the mid terms, which will be a blue wave, so that when people get kicked off of their coverage, they'll blame democrats! People are going to die. Many of them Republican voters.

I'd ask you for a link but I know better. I haven't seen any of that, what kind of online trash do you consume? If people are actually saying that, fock them.

This is where you go off the rails. Statements like this are hyperbolic, absurd, untrue, and only add to the malice and division we currently see. The current DNC is worse than the gestapo now? Khmer Rouge? Stalin's communist party? The Italian National Fascists? I'm not calling you stupid, but your statement sure as hell is.

More sexual trafficking victims?

It's gonna be a shitshow.

That part hasn't been announced yet. We've got a whole year for this event to become continuously sleazier and more embarrassing.

I accuse you because you make them. As do I, but I only go after those that come at me first. And sometimes I eventually make nice with folks that I exchange nasty remarks with, like @EternalShinyAndChrome and @Patented Phil (where has he been?). TonydeadRogerJuneHorseman is generally an insulting, dismissive POS with nothing decent or positive to say that openly cheers on other's misery and has gone to the lengths of posting swastikas here. If you wanna defend him, go for it. Also, let's be fair here. Horsemanure is a pretty inspired nickname.

My pleasure. Now will you admit that Republicans are just as bad?

The Longest Day. Maybe the greatest war movie ever and rarely gets mentioned as such. Kids and I are gonna watch Miracle later today to get some patriotic juices flowing.

I won't argue that Democrats do this. You act as though this behavior is exclusively the provenance of Democrats, though. That is faaaaar from the truth. FFS, the BBB that just passed literally waits until after the midterms before blowing up Medicaid to make it look like it wasn't the GOP that pushed it through.

Thanks? I don't need this advice, I'm typically pretty honest and prefer to not lie. Now, if you..... were referring to my prior post..... in which I called you out for hypocrisy..... and...... in response...... you are now calling me a liar..... I would laugh. Because this: Is hypocritical gold. You rarely, if ever, admit being wrong. Even when you're dead to rights. And scaring people needlessly, which you seem to be speaking against in your post, is like half the platform of your boy Trump, who you defend endlessly. So it logically follows...... that you either don't have a real problem with terrorizing innocent people for no good reason...... or I surmise that you are grossly unaware of the contradictions within your beliefs...... hence a lack of self awareness.

This is exactly why so many of us have your old alias on ignore. What happened to OG Horsemanure never suspended, Tony?

This part made me laugh: Has she met her boss?

Seems like a juiced-up Amazon fire stick. I'm sure it works well, but you still have to pay for the services.