Ray_T

I dont know about that. This is not a given. Kid still isnt a finished product. if hes coachable he could be the starter by mid season, but I think a red shirt year may be in order. (big IF)...... if hes not coachable, Flacco will not be unseated until the team is eliminated from the playoffs and it may not even be Sheduer who unseats him. If Flacco has the team in a position to make the playoffs, They will continue to roll with him. Thats how I'd play it as a coach/gm. I'm not a fan of just giving a starting job to anyone. They need to earn it by unseating a veteran who is still a capable starter in this league.

you know the answer to that is a hard NO. but pro football is different apparently lol

possibly. though from what I saw he didnt look like a first round player. he looked like a 2nd round player with some upside. Not bad mind you. quite a few players who fit into that category inevitably were drafted in the first round. its the off field stuff that likely prevented this from happening..

well, I'm a bit surprised hes fallen THIS far but not entirely surprised. his scouting report read a lot like that of Dak Prescott when he came into the league. and Dak was a 4th round pick that landed in the perfect situation where the team around him was able to cover his flaws long enough for him to develop the rest of his game to a good level. granted at the time Dak was drafted I thought he should have gone in round 2 or early round 3 so I thought the boys got a deal. but Dak didnt have the sense of entitlement that this guy had. he was a lot more coachable and didnt have a mouthpiece for a dad that was likely to become a coach/gm nightmare. So I was not totally surprised that he was not a first round pick. but usually there is a team or two out there that ignore those red flags and spend a first anyway. so I figured it was 50-50 that this scenario plays out. What I'm surprised about is that we are now halfway into round 4 and hes not taken. but maybe the thing with his old man is worse than we know. maybe the guy is badgering GM's and such and they just want none of that. either way this is no longer about his talent. this is about the off field stuff now. and perhaps his coachability.

wow this has turned into a freefall for the kid. I do feel bad for him. Hes talented enough that he should be off the board, but I think this is his dads fault. I think hes likely to yap in the coach and GM's ear if he doesnt like the way his son is handled and then likely to yap to the media. Not an element you want in your dressing room I think. and I dont think the Tape on Sheduer was good enough that I'd be willing to let that go. though now hes at a point where a team needs to use a 4th on him. at that price as a team you can walk away from him if he doesnt pan out or if his dad gets too annoying. I'm sure someone takes a chance on him soon. the Browns who everyone thought wanted him were quoted as saying hes a nice prospect but sometimes its about 'fit'. I think that says it all.

well, another defender to add to an already very good defense. cant argue with that. but then again, the whole team was pretty good to begin with either way, the fact they won the superbowl and actually still own their own first round pick should scare a few teams. if they nail this pick, that defense will be even better.

I figured they would take a RB in round 1 or 2. this will likely be a committee. At least for this next year. but its definitely possible Hampton could win the starting gig outright.

well, the Saints passed on him. now the question is where does he go in round 2. I do think a trade up in round 2 is possible. Maybe even likely. It will be interesting to see how far he falls. If the saints were thinking about taking him, their patience has likely paid off. They now can get him for a very reasonable price and if his dad starts giving them a headache as a helicopter parent, they can just trade him or sit him. (or release him outright)

Well, I think his dad has influenced this a lot. I dont know that I'd want the kid if his dads gonna be constantly in my ear about how he should be used. And based on some of the public comments I think thats exactly how this is gonna play out. Unless you want his old man coming in to coach your team, you dont wanna spend a first rounder on the kid. but if he goes in round 2 or 3 that may be less of a problem. Teams are far more willing to walk from a 2nd or 3rd rounder than a first. it eliminates some of the gong show that could happen if the kid is taken early in round 1.

Egbuka to the Bucs. I didnt think WR was their largest need.....

for sure. you look at all the playoff teams. all but a couple seem to dominate play on the line. this is truly where its at. I know the giants need o line help, but they also need D line help so I dont mind their pick so much. Though arguably you could say they need help everywhere and you wouldnt be wrong lol

I'm glad to see lots of the teams needing O line help are wising up and taking O line guys.

probably.

I'm with you. I'll watch a game here or there, but most of my college football viewing is evaluating tape posted on fftoday when trying to evaluate rookie QB for my keeper draft. Admittedly I dont usually go after rookie QB but it does happen on occasion if the price is right.

you think he goes that high? I think the best case scenario is a Dak Prescott type player. good enough to get you to the playoffs, not good enough to win a superbowl unless the team around him is superb. and there isnt even a guarantee that he achieves the best case scenario. Dak has holes in his game. he was drafted in the 4th round because of those holes in his game, but landed in the perfect offense that is able to hide/cover most of his flaws as a player. Granted I thought at the time the cowboys got a steal in round 4. I felt at the time he should have been drafted in round 2-3 but we are splitting hairs with respect to QB value. the bottom line is he was not a first round pick. my thought is that this kid throws a bit better but doesnt run as well as dak did at this point in his career. He probably should be drafted early 2nd or late first round. I think the only reason we are talking about early round 1 is because we have a weak draft class. Hes a player who has a decent chance to develop into a good pro QB but I dont think his ceiling is high enough to warrant a top 8 pick. Certainly not top 3. but as we all know, all it takes is for one team to love him and that's enough. if that team is New Orleans so be it. Personally if it was me I'd see if he slides in the draft. right now if the titans, browns and Giants pass I think there is a 50% chance they can get him at #9. only team likely to take him after that is the Raiders at 6. But they have a QB now so maybe they wait. the biggest threat is that the browns or the giants trade back a few spots and then take him there. I'd say the odds of that happening is greater than the odds of the Raiders taking him at 6. I could, of course be wrong. but the most QB needy teams are picking top 3. problem is.... the cost to trade into the top 3 if you are sitting at #9 like the saints is probably way too high.

I'm not saying hes a hit. for me it actually depends on where he lands and how they build out the offense around him. I think a good coach/organization can make it work. a subpar coach/organization probably wont.

good observation. I agree. barring a trade up (or going off the board in round 1) I dont see it happening. but stranger things have happened. If they like him enough, I suppose all options are on the table.

nice writeup. thanks

no I meant on the roster Isnt JJ McCarthy a first round pick?

well, he is running out of time and choices. he needs to decide soon. Im a bit surprised the vikings are in this. dont they have a young QB they like a lot?

I thought fftoday was pretty good for that. have you clicked on the film clips that go with the scouting report each year? This is one of the only places you can get that. it was one of the reasons I first started coming here. at that time my thought was 'this is great!!! I dont have to go all over the place looking for film on prospects I plan to draft in my dynasty league. fftoday provides their own scouting report. (which is nice) but usually what I do is I look at the film then I look at their scouting report to compare with my own notes. the reason I do it in that order is because if I see the report, then I view the film I'm basically looking for the features mentioned in the report. so to avoid confirmation bias, I do my own analysis first. then I compare my analysis to that of fftoday (and any other scouting reports I happen to find) based on that (and end results) I actually now am at a point where i have a good idea what reports are more likely to be correct and what reports are not. sometimes we all do make mistakes. this time last year I ended up picking Caleb Williams over Jayden Daniels even though I liked Jayden daniels scouting report better(see notes under Jayden daniels, I believe I said as much in my own comments online). I did this because Caleb had better WR and the perception at the time was that Chicago had a better line. The reality is Chicagos line took a step backward and the line in Washington took a step forward. As a result, Daniels performed earlier in his career than I had predicted. I thought Caleb was in the better situation, but I was wrong, and Jayden blossomed as a player while Caleb struggled. either way, the film in this case was a good predictor. I ignored my analysis (to some degree) because I thought Caleb was in the better situation. and that is my bad.

speculation. mine too. I think that Rodgers thinks a better offer will come as hes not fully happy playing in Pittsburgh. you think he really wants to retire. while the end result may end up being the same, the bottom line is how this plays out may be difficult to predict. in some respects it feels like Rodgers doesnt want to sign in a city where he would be expected to be a mentor to his eventual replacement. but it could just simply be that he doesnt love Pittsburgh and doesnt want to be a game manager.

I think that he still thinks hes good enough that he can pick and choose where he goes. this is all about ego

I can see why he doesnt want to sign in Pittsburgh. they run a pretty conservative offense there. My guess is he is not fond of playing that way. but hes at a point where he does not have a lot of options left unless he wants to leave some money on the table.

Do the Saints have the cap space. Last I saw they were in cap jail and at the time they signed Carr I was surprised they found the cash to THAT. Not sure how they'd be able to find cash to pay Rodgers now. granted lots of things can change in a year or two so maybe I'm out to lunch on this but this feels like an unlikely destination.