Ray_T

lots of good, valid points here. I am going to add a couple more. Moss never lost the job to Singletary. the job belonged to Singletary and moss was supposed to take it from him but he never did. That said..... the Bills have been a team that has done a mediocre job of running the ball at best. Their O line is decent but seems to do a far better job in pass pro than they ever did running the ball. So even if he won the starting job, there, I dont know that I'd think that much differently about him. I felt he and Singletary were pretty close in terms of talent. for whatever reason the team liked Singletary better. Then he moves to Indy. maybe one of the best run blocking lines in the NFL and his efficiency gets a whole lot better. based on YPC his efficiency would suggest he could start. and behind a good line I think he does an adequate job. but I'm not a big believer in the line in Cincy. they have had some issues the last couple years (partly due to injuries) but still seemed to run the ball ok most nights. This is part of the reason why Mixons efficiency dropped as well. My expectation is that Moss drops to around 4 YPC which is better than his buffalo days but not as good as his Indy days. which is ok. but not so good that he cannot be displaced by someone who comes in and plays well. Is Chase Brown that guy? I dont know. but thats where we are at. if his efficiency is below 4 YPC I could see the team giving brown a shot at some point regardless. but I am with you. if he had other options and chose to come here, it is likely because some promises were made. so Chase brown likely has to kick that door down in order to change peoples minds. to that end, it is likely that Moss starts off the season as the #1 guy there. how long he holds that job depends on how he (and the team) perform.

its possible. though I think a committee of sorts is the most likely scenario. thereby making neither back any better than an RB3 if someone wins the starting job outright, then RB2 is possible and likely

his ypc were not bad but he was playing behind a far better line than the one he will be running behind in cincy. he might be a volume based RB2 if he is not in a committee. but I dont see him cracking the top 10.

yeah, I swear there were some days when I swear he had to be online almost all day. either way, different strokes for different folks.

well, it looks like they could have shortened that up by 75% and the article would be just as useful. important takeaway is he has a lower body injury at the moment. given he came back from an ACL injury, not entirely surprising. you are usually a bit more prone to the soft tissue injuries once you have your ACL reconstructed.

New York Jets Release Concerning Injury Update On Superstar RB Breece Hall (msn.com) since hes ranked top 10, I figured I should post this link which just popped up on my feed

true. sometimes when a piss poor organization drafts a QB its hard for that QB to thrive in that kind of scenario. though the guy replacing him is the shiny new toy drafted in round 1. politically its a dangerous move to not give the kid the starting job at some point. Darnold would need to blow the doors off statistically and win his games to keep the kid off the field. if Darnold goes 3-3 or 4-2 in the first 6 games.......I'd suggest that may not be good enough. Though 4-2 may warrant giving him a couple extra games. (if they give him that much of a leash) more likely if hes not winning they pull him after 2 or 3 games and put in the kid.

well, they will probably need it.

yeah, playing on a better team will usually improve the stats.

I dont trust a lot of the mocking sites. especially for auctions it feels like yahoo throws in an AI who then bids up to a level its programmed to bid(for auction) or drafts according to the draft list of whoever does the Mock draft and doesnt take situation into account. and in a lot of cases you get a guy who comes in to mock round 1 and then bails for round 2 or 3 and his team essentially drafts from the list. so the mock doesnt actually help a whole lot in cases like that. the fftoday mock is useful. some of the other mocks on other fantasy sites can be useful too. but these sites that do 5-10 mocks per hour are mostly useless. Certainly there is info to glean from it. but once you've seen one or two of these, you've probably seen enough.

yeah, and white was a pass catching RB so when the game script went poorly he still got fed.. that helped. generally when the game script goes upside down because the team is bad, the run game gets abandoned in the second half. (at least if the game isnt all that close) so RB's on bad teams tend to underperform when compared to their actual talent as a player. pass catching RB's can do a little better when the game script flips like that but it also depends how much the team/qb like to throw the ball to their RB too. In Tampa, white got fed a lot in the pass game. honestly a lot more than I was expecting. His run stats are actually quite mediocre. 3.6 yards per carry. but 64 catches at an average of 8.6 yards per catch is pretty sweet. and for a 2nd year player, thats pretty good. usually takes a RB a while to get the reads and the routes down pat. I figured hed build on his rookie year (which was ok) but he did more than that. as for Brooks, he tore his ACL late last year, so the odds of him being a top 10 RB this season is pretty slim. Breakout for him is likely next year. but hes a nice dynasty add now if you are willing to wait a year. I could see them using him as a scat back to start, but the running will mostly stay with Chubba. Chubba doesnt excite me as a player, but I think he takes the first and second down role in this offense.

well, I used to do a work draft on yahoo. most people used the yahoo rankings so I'd just go through the yahoo rankings (which are not that good) and find the players who are over/under valued and I planned for the undervalued players to drop in the draft a bit. I would then tweak my strategy and sometimes pass over a player on the assumption he may drop another round. strategy worked brilliantly. so when that is the scenario, finding problems in the rankings of the draft provider can be a very easy path to victory in an office draft (or something of the like)

that was kinda my thought process as well. but hey, we all dont have to agree. if we all ranked everyone the same, the draft would be a boring affair. I actually find it annoying when someone takes the guy I wanted just before I pick, so if in my league I prefer that your rankings differ from mine haha

well, he hasnt been a flash in the pan. hes produced pretty steady since he was drafted. I dont think a big contract will change that. the only negative factor is hes got an aging Dak Prescott who admittedly has at least 3 or 4 good years left (assuming good health) and possibly 5 or 6 years. so the last year or two of the contract may not pay off but I think they will be fine.

or just a RB who can come close to his projected performance who isnt 30 years old (or older)

not saying hes a bad choice there. I just dont like that much risk in a first round pick. (personal preference) if he performs, you'll probably do better than you estimated, but if he doesnt perform, your fantasy season goes poof. so If I can get reasonably similar value at the draft table without inheriting the risks associated with a 30 year old RB, then I'd probably take that out.

well, we dont know that for sure. I guess it depends on where they were in the talks inflation rate has moved up and the cap has too..... so I was sure that the market was gonna move for WR and QB for sure. we just didnt know by how much it would move. its also possible that CeeDee wasnt gonna sign until they saw where the market was anyhow.

well, he had a way of stirring up conversation. and honestly I like looking at different opinions on a topic. I dont necessarily always agree on his methods as they sometimes would get people upset, but at the same time I dont think he was doing this to be mean. its just who he was. either way, it was nice to get an opinion from him once in a while.

ok good enough. I honestly didnt know if it was him or not (which is why I asked) but hopefully hes in a better place. RIP

well, at 30 its dicey. moreso than many would like to admit. I'd buy but I wouldnt pay a RB1 price for him (due to age) I know that likely means I wont get him but I've been burned on RB's at this age before. I think his odds of a good(RB1 level) season are far closer to 50-50 and for me, thats not a first round pick based on the way I assess risk.

are we sure this is the same guy? do one of you actually know who his real name is?

I think in light of the mans poor health, this comment is in bad taste (even if its true and funny to some)

what I find to be funny is that people need to be told this.... people should already know it but clearly it is a problem. If it wasnt, there would be no need for this.

I couldnt agree more. thats the equivalent of putting you in jail if your kid goes out and commits a crime. in the end, we as people have to take responsibility for our own actions. its called being an adult. I know lots of pro sports people dont like doing it but it needs to be done. Your money actually can bail you out of a lot of problems but it cannot fix everything. This is the lesson here.

agreed. but he is not a breakout candidate anymore. he has already broken out.