Ray_T

I dont like his fumbling. but sometimes that can be fixed with coaching. I'd say 50% of the time it cannot be fixed. but thats likely one of the reasons he wont be a day 1 pick and may not be a day 2 pick either. once you get into day 3 picks the upside is usually worth the risk and you pick him with a thought to developing or fixing the flaws in that diamond in the rough. If a team with a good coach sees why hes fumbling and thinks he can fix it, he may go on day 2. but day 3 is likely where he belongs in this draft.

I dunno. its a long and often painful way to go. while there are worse ways to go, I would not go so far as to say its a nice way to leave this earth.

yeah so many times hed get 3-4 yards before first contact and because zeke was a beast hed either fall forward for an extra yard or two or hed break the tackle and get another pile o' yards once he got into the secondary. that was one line where they probably just could have run the ball every play and the other team would have been helpless to stop them. and for a year or so while Dak was learning to be a pro, thats basically what they did.

he was also running behind what many considered to be the best O line in pro football. That line was awesome.

I'm sure they discount the tickets by the price of one game so nobody gets cheezed. is it that big a deal? you gotta give allowances for the league to grow the game.

followup: I like to go back and look at the results at the end of the year to see where the champion won the draft and to see what I could have done better. also to look for trends in the stats that may give me an edge for future drafts. if going back to analyze a draft isnt for you, this isnt a post you want to read, so I'll save you the trouble. but for those who do care, this is a good group of drafters who know their stuff (for the most part) and I think there are lessons to be learned here if you care to read. July 2023 PPR Mock - Results - The Mocking Station - FFToday Forums the link takes you to the mock results posted in the mocking station. Fantasy Football: 2023 FFToday: July Mock (myfantasyleague.com) this link takes you to the scoring page. This is a basic high level analysis. I could go deeper into the stats if people request it, but honestly I'm just looking to point out interesting data that may help you in your strategy when you draft yourself. First, congrats to Worm who won the draft. top 6 results as follows: 1. Worm 2507 points 2. Robb 2441 points 3. Ray_T 2281 points 4. White Wonder 2266 points 5. Shovelheadt 2257 points 6 Iceman 2238 points So Worm won in a landslide, how did he win? He had 2 top 10 QBs and neither were drafted early. He had the #5 RB and the #3, 19, and #30 WR an interesting trend is that 5 of the top 6 teams all had top QB's on their roster. Worm had the #3 and #9 QB, Robb had the #2 and #14 QB I had the #1 QB, White Wonder had the #10 and #12 QB and Shovelhead had the #6 QB this makes a pretty good case for making sure you nail the QB pick (wherever in the draft you happen to take it) Best 2 RB was taken By Hawkeye, but White Wonder took the #3, 10, and the #12 ranked RB. (outstanding) Robb took the #4 and the #8 RB at WR Ralphster took the #1 WR and the #21 ranked WR Remote took the #2 and the #20 and worm took the #3 and #17 ranked WR Robb took the #5 ranked (but #4 in the draft as the #4 ranked WR went undrafted) and the #18 ranked WR the only true correlation to results was that all the top teams had a top 12 QB and in some cases two of them. anyhow, thats all I got. food for everyones thoughts. I look forward to some discussion from those who wish to talk strategy as well as what went right and wrong for some teams. one other trend I found was many of the teams at the bottom of the standings suffered with injuries (which is fairly typical actually) cheers guys. Lets try to keep this discussion productive.

2 differing opinions. I bet Polecatt is right. I bet he doesnt do any time or if he does it will be very minimal. but it will cost him a pile of cash to keep his hands clean.

if he didnt have high powered lawyers that may have happened. but a lot of times the DA wont press charges against someone who will lawyer up unless you are sure you can make it stick. once the lawyers get involved there is a large cost to the taxpayer and if that large cost doesnt have a good chance of bringing a conviction why spend the money? Thats what big money gets you. perhaps a bit more leniency due to the potential of lawyers getting involved and mucking things up.

I can relate. too many teams bring in a young QB and put them behind a leaky line and then question why the QB didnt develop as he should. lots of times when a GM fails its not one or two bad moves that does it. lots of times its other things people dont notice. and the Line in New york has been bad off and on for a long time. not sure if thats a product of the O line coach or bad drafting but they actually drafted and brought in free agents that were supposed to solve the O line problems only to have the problem come back a year leater. at the end of the day, whether the problem was he hired bad coaches or drafted bad players, it doesnt matter. the bottom line is he couldnt make the team win. Thats the bottom line. but he did do a lot of things wrong. I dont think drafting Sequon was one of them. he was a legit playmaker and he could play. and if as a team you believe in the draft picks you have made up to that point I dont think it was a bad move. it just turned out that many of the players drafted or signed prior to that point didnt pan out. They brought in a free agent Tackle from the pats who was an all star, and then 2 or 3 years later he was a bum and they released him. They drafted another guy I think with the first or second pick of round 2 who had a nice year or two and then regressed. is this a talent problem? or bad coaching? I dont know. but the team did try to address the line on multiple occasions and just couldnt get it right.

sorry, I mixed up my incompetent GMS. same team, and I'm not a G man fan, so its an easy mistake to make.

he hit on the pick. so I dont consider that to be a fail. if Sequon was a dud then yes. but at the time if Danny Dimes had turned into the player he was supposed to be the Sequon pick would have been just fine. I know hindsight is 20-20 but at some point you need to take the leap of faith that the previous players you have drafted will turn out. and many thought at the time that Dimes was gonna be the real deal. so I dont fault him for that. it just turns out Dimes didnt pan out and thus the situation arose that you speak of.

yeah, and giving that massive contract to Danny Dimes after not renewing the 5th year option. that may have been the icing on the cake. if they had taken the 5th year option, they wouldnt have even needed to spend on him at all. then Sequon might have been resigned instead. (which in hindsight was likely the better move)

no need to do that. package with this years 2nd and take a WR in the bottom half of round 1. This is an exceptionally deep draft for WR. I dont think they need to get the pick of the litter.

I wouldnt be surprised if they did. my bet is at the very least, the pick they get for Diggs will be used to select another WR. alternatively, they use their first to pick the Diggs replacement. I could even see them taking that 2nd round pick they got for him and packaging that with another draft pick to move up into the bottom half of round 1 and then using both first rounders on WR with the thought that if one doesnt pan out, they still get a very good replacement for Diggs at a fraction of the cost.

I actually like a lot of the film I have seen. occasionally his deep ball floats a bit more than you'd like and that shows where a strong armed QB is preferred in some respects. there were a couple of deep balls where the WR had to stop to prevent the ball from being underthrown. but otherwise I liked his accuracy with tight windows, I liked a lot of his pre snap reads. the one interception he shouldnt have thrown but at the same time the WR sort of telegraphed his cut (which led to the DB jumping the route). my old football coach used to call it a banana route because he rounded the turn rather than making a sharper cut that can take the DB by surprise. either way, I am not absolving him of that INT. but the WR needs to take some of the credit for that one. if he runs a better route, the DB likely doesnt jump the route like he did.

honestly his scouting report doesnt look a whole lot different than Brady's did at this age. people had a lot of the same questions about Brady as they do about him. but hes a bit more athletic and runs more than Brady ever did. Thats not to say hes gonna turn out to be like Brady, but thats the type of QB he needs to be to be successful with the skillset he has. precision passer. Hes not gonna win too many games with his feet like some of the other top prospects. But as a QB he throws the ball well.

I think we all agree they need a WR. all I'm saying is its not doom and goom to the point where the offense is totally hooped. If they get a WR that can step in and be productive from day 1(totally possible in this deep draft) the team may be in better shape than we think. There may still be some overpriced WR out there that they may acquire on the cheap as teams try to cut some salary. I wouldnt be surprised to see some of that come to pass (in addition to what they get at the draft table)

sadly if the QB position doesnt work out that usually means the GM loses their job. that's just the way of things. as such, hes no longer there.

they do have a lot of holes elsewhere to fill. problem with the pats O line.... lots of the players on the pats O line were system dependant talents. with Belicheck gone, those guys are more or less useless because they wont likely be playing the same system. That means a full overhaul of the line. if someone offers the pats multiple firsts for their top pick they should take it, repair that leaky line. even if the guys they draft take a year or two to come around the QB can be drafted next year. Alternatively, you can draft that QB early, but you dont play him behind that leaky line. you let him sit and learn until late in the season where you give him a start or two to see where he is at. then next year your O line. Thats an option. but there is a decent chance this isnt what they will do. teams always want to play their high first round pick early and ruin him.

I think the pass game will be ok one way or another. before the team got diggs, John Brown got 1000 yards receiving. I was pretty sure the guy was washed up but he got 1000 yards with a young Josh Allen. Thats how i knew Allen was going to be a good player. he will figure something out.

I looked at the film, and there is a lot to like there. I do think there is some untapped potential as a receiver there. he made a couple real nice hands catches that makes me think hes capable of more.

hey I know you guys dont love this guy, but when I see that a QB gets a good read on the Defense so he rarely has to move on from the first read.... thats huge. in in some respects puts him far ahead of most of the other QB's expected to go early. based on the fftoday analysis, this guy looks like a perfect west coast offense type QB where they throw short and intermediate throws but dont often go deep. but if hes getting rid of the ball quickly and getting it into the hands of playmakers in space hes doing his job. There is lots to like here. the only concern is if he becomes a dink and dunk QB at the NFL level. at the very least I think this kid is a serviceable backup but he has considerable upside too. for me, the best QB's in the NFL make those pre snap reads and do a great job of getting rid of the ball quickly while also protecting the football. he seems to do this at the college level at least.

Diggs is a bit of a Diva who gets hurt from time to time. I suspect he will be good in that first year. if Houston is dumb enough to re sign him it will be year 2 and 3 where his Diva will start to make him a less than stellar teammate.

well, just because you have prospects doesnt mean you dont draft more. dynasty is a constant drafting and then trimming the dead wood. I seem to do reasonably well in my drafting but I also do a lot more due diligence than most do on their players. it also helps when people drafting ahead of me pick a guy I was iffy on anyways. saves me the trouble (and risk)

thats fair. knowing where that line is can be half the battle.