Ray_T

I hope you are right. I drafted him in my keeper league and I'd like to see him fulfil his potential

I fully agree. it feels like the offense was well designed. how much of that is good coaching and how much is good QB play remains to be seen. but if Darnold stinks it up in his new home, I'd be inclined at that point to think it is the coach.

that might be a stretch, but he looked decent. not quite top end, but good.

of course you do. thats the main reason you make this deal. if the floors not there, you're not making that trade.

and you might be right. but based on where the market is. I felt it was a fair trade overall. you got a guy who is more likely to make it as a QB. and while the guy you gave up has a higher ceiling, the chances of fulfilling his potential are somewhat low. its one of those deals that is close enough that I could see some people thinking you may not have made the smartest trade. but I like the deal. my two cents worth.

McCarthy doesnt have the upside of richardson, but I think he has a better chance of being a Plus starter. Richardsons potential is sky high, but at this point in his career his chances of meeting that potential is considerably below 50-50. (i'd say probably closer to 20%) McCarthy has a better chance of being a good starter. Likely at least 50-50. possibly 60-40. but his upside isnt where Richardsons is. in the end, you got a solid, likely above average starter for a boom bust prospect and a first. I think thats likely a fair trade.

that is the problem. we dont know the reason. not for sure anyways. but yeah, I thought Palmer was gonna have a good year, but maybe the issue is that hes not where he needs to be. when I played QB there was a WR on my team who used to get open a fair bit, but he often did not run the route he was supposed to run. To that end, he asked why I didnt hit him and the answer was, you were my second read. I looked at my first read, and he wasnt open. I looked for you and you were not in the place I thought you were supposed to be. I have big O linemen in my face at that point and I had to check it down. I didnt have time to look for you. then I said, if you want the football, you need to be where you are supposed to be if you want the ball. if I have to look for you, I'm gonna take a sack. eventually he started running the routes I wanted, but it took some time for him to make this connection and make it happen on the field. He eventually became my #1 WR but it did not happen overnight.

this largely says it all. and fully agree with Dr. G. he was on a lot of bad teams and put up numbers that varied between Meh and good with one very good year mixed in. as a real life QB I ranked him higher because of the # of 4th quarter comebacks he led (which were numerous) but that admittedly isnt a stat that counts for fantasy. Fantasy wise hes been a mid to high end QB2 or low end QB 1 most years.

thats no guarantee that the problem is with MHJ. if the QB is wildly inaccurate, that will affect the catch %. and Harrison is known for his wide catch radius so I'm inclined to think that problem may be the QB. though it could just be that the QB and WR are not on the same page for their reads. that happens a lot with rookies too. to that end, It is possible they fix that this year and we see a substantial turnaround. This is one of those players who, if he falls too far in the draft he could be a real bargain at WR.

I'd agree with this analysis. If Richardson can fix his accuracy issues and throwing mechanics, he has a bit more upside. but that sort of thing is difficult to fix. it can take years to overcome and unlearn the bad habits that have been learned for years. some players can fix it.... but some never do. What Richardson needs is a good QB coach who specializes in fixing the throwing motion and an offense that will be patient with him. I dont know enough to know who is good for that and who isnt. He may already have a good throwing coach, and if that is the case, maybe thats why they have brought in Danny Dimes. I do think as of today Danny Dimes is likely the better QB. but due to the age of Richardson, I think Danny doesnt just need to be better to steal the starting job. He needs to be a lot better. so barring a complete meltdown I do think Richardson will likely be the starter at QB to start the year. but he will be on a short leash. a couple of bad games and it will be Danny Dimes time.

yeah, in that format, hes a guy you dont give up on.

hes a solid QB2. certainly worth taking a late round flyer even if he sits on the bench a couple of weeks to start the year. You just dont want him as your #1 QB. that would be a mistake. but he is one of those players who has flashed enough that I think there is the potential for him to be a late bloomer. if you can get him late, I'm all good with that. Just dont go expecting a lot from him. I'd consider him to be a lotto ticket. not a sure thing at all.

no, it generally means the offense doesnt get much time on the field. no time for them to REALLY get in a groove either. and if the other defense can get a 3 and out after their team scores a TD. a second long drive can really kill the opposing offense causing them to get cold. its definitely a balancing act and the Panthers have a lot of holes to fill in that lineup on both sides of the ball.

no argument there. I used to turn into that show and just mute it. just for the eye candy

I wouldnt necessarily blame Kyler. it takes time to develop a trust between a pass catcher and a QB. in key situations there are likely WR he knows what they will do on a certain play. thats why WR rarely blow up out of the gate. it usually takes a year or two. sometimes up to 3 years for that to happen. be patient. eventually it will be fine.

bottom line.... until we know how they put the stats together its tough to really get an idea of how this stat is in terms of a stat where we can use it to rank our WR. I suppose you could take WR who have roughly the same level of double coverage and compare them.... Then again he was a rookie. whatever these stats are, I have to believe there will be a year 2 improvement here. provided the weight gain doesnt slow him down.....

Yeah, I'd probably take the over too (though it is close for me). the O lineman will help. the OL guy they drafted may or may not help this year. I have found first and second rounders are usually the ones who are most likely to make an immediate impact. 3rd-4th rounders(and later) often take a year or two. so I wouldnt count on much from the kid immediately. if he makes an impact it will likely be in the 2nd half of the season. Admittedly, there are always exceptions and I dont know if hes likely to be one. Either way, I wouldnt give up on Lawrence completely. not yet. hes still very young as a player.

very good point. and this is something a lot of rookies struggle with. and probably an area where a good coach can make all the difference for the guy. (provided the player is coachable)

his catch radius makes up for a lot. dont get me wrong. but if he could gain even a half yard more separation on average, his numbers would improve dramatically that said, part of his separation issues is because after the week 2 (or was it week 3?) explosion, he was double covered a LOT. I dont know how this plays into the separation stats, or if they just include cases where it was single coverage. It would make sense to throw out all the instances where he was double covered so they are comparing apples to apples when putting him up against other WR. and maybe a second stat for separation when double covered. to that end, as I dont know exactly how they come up with the metrics, I really dont know how valid this actually is.

yeah, that was not what he needed to do. he should have been working on speed and agility training. unless he actually wanted to be a TE......

you are right. but whether a person plays, 2, 3, or 4 years of college, if they are mismanaged you can ruin them all the same. I think younger players are more likely to have their development stunted if you dont handle them correctly. I do feel Jaxonville has not often put him into a position to be successful. and they certainly did not do a great job of surrounding him with good talent. they blew an incredible amount of money on Kirk as a WR but he was never more than mediocre before and after the signing. I think he may have had one 1000 yard season. certainly he did nothing to justify the stupid amount of cash they threw at him. they also blew a few draft picks which doesnt help. but the biggest blunder was the Urban Meyer Hiring. Im honestly surprised Lawrence is still a starter given the gong show that franchise was in his rookie year. Lots of prospects would have crashed and burned there.

didnt he enter the draft early? that would explain a lot. and also explains why its likely wise for his team not to give up on him yet. hes young enough that there is still very significant upside for him.

I think all of us would rather have jayden. but there was no way to get him for San fran. gotta keep the expectations realistic.

Im surprised he hasnt been totally ruined. Mediocre WR's and bad coaching...... but he's resilient at least. and now he has a big money contract the team cant likely get out of, so hes locked in for a while. hopefully he figures things out at some point here. I'll say one thing.... the Organization hasnt done much to help him so far.....

I love this guy. very underrated player. in terms of value for your draft capital I think there is a lot to like for fantasy.