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This argument I don't understand. Why won't they pass that many times? Herbert has thrown at least 30 passes in 69 of his 80 career starts. In 3 of that other 11, he left the game early. He's thrown 34 or more in 53 of his 80 starts. For his career, he's averaging 37 attempts per game. Is your argument that because last year with Harbaugh, they averaged 29.6 attempts per game last year, that's the new norm?

Depends on what you mean by "Fool's Gold". I don't think anyone expects 5 for 80 and 2 every week, right? When we look at Johnston's short career, we have Y1 where he had 67 targets, 38 rec, for 431 yards with 2 TD's. We saw that production increase in Y2 up to 91, 55, 711, & 8. Is there not a reasonable chance that with a possible upgrade in the backfield that the passing game can be even bigger? So, we all know he's not going to be a WR1, right? I think the expectation by people is that he's probably a strong WR3 that could produce WR2 numbers occasionally and once in a while, have a WR1 game. Is that "Fool's Gold"? Or do you think people are going to expect WR2 production more often?

Not really. Half of the country knows that the Democrat party is the worst political organization to ever exist... the other half are split. Half agree with it, the other half are useful idiots.

LOL, he always has some issue.

I'm sure you know where I stand. lol Unless Mac Jones is named the starter, Brian Thomas is a WR2.

Yeah, cause Putin cares about that. Wait, I thought Putin and Trump were buddies. Why would he do this to his buddy?

I have a feeling that's going to be the NFL in a couple years. I think they want to push for an 18-game season.

Yeah, Lawrence isn't good. That whole offense went from a target to DND for me. The only Jag I drafted this year was the kicker. How does a guy get 8(?), targets in a game and come away with 1 catch for 10 yards against a below average defense? Personally, I thought Carolina was going to win. I think they're going to be better than last year, but like 20+ other teams in Week 1, they played like crap. We'll see though.

Yeah, he'd have just invaded them like he did with Ukraine.

What, he didn't even "Biden" and say "Don't!"?

I went with, and sticking with, Goedert... until he gets hurt. So, about 3 or 4 more weeks.

Correct. Changes nothing I said in my post. Do you think Jackson is throwing 40+ TD again or do you think it's an outlier? Do you think Jackson throws for 4000+ yards again or do you think it's an outlier? Do you think Jackson throws 475 passes again or do you think it's an outlier? All of those things matter because the RB's, WR's, and TE's are directly impacted by that. Let's take Jackson's average starts and project that to a 17-game season... that would bring us to him having a 464 attempt season where he throws for 3600 yards and 30 TD's. You still think Andrews gets 11 TD's, 55 catches, 673 yards? I don't. Let's say Jackson has a season that is inline with just the last 3 years. The attempts and yards would be similar, but an 8 TD drop bringing him to 33 TD's. Do you think Andrews would replicates last years numbers? I don't. Also, there's been a steady decline in Andrews' playing time and increase in Likely's + Andrews - 83%, 70%, 61% + Likely... 40%, 44%, 60%.

It was a racial hate crime. I thought we were supposed to be upset by that?

You're sure it was a "white" "guy"? The only thing I found online about this was a CBS article and they don't mention the suspects race at all. Not even a picture. They do say that that "The LAPD initially reported that the suspect was a woman, but later updated that the person was actually a man." Is that because maybe the suspect may or may not actually be a man?

Kamala Harris. I mean, she used to be Asian, right?

So true. I have no problem with people starting Andrews every week and hoping he gets a TD, I just think that's being overly optimistic. When Likely gets in there and, assuming he's healthy, I think their production flips (from last year). I think Likely is the guy that gets double digit TD's and Andrews is getting 5 or 6. I also think his target share drops a bit. I don't think Jackson throws the ball more that 475 times this year. Assuming health across the board, I think Flowers is going to get about 25% of them (like last year), let's call it 120. I expect Bateman is going to be around 80 and D-Hop with at least 50. Likely will probably get about 70 or 80, like Bateman. Then you got Hill and the RB's that are good for at least 60 and that gets to around 380 (give or take), leaving us with about 100 targets for Andrews and every other player not mentioned. So, I don't see Andrews getting around 70 targets, I think 50 is more reasonable. I also don't see Jackson throwing for 41 TD's again... 30 (or so), seems more realistic. In a ideal scenario where everyone is healthy and the Ravens win about 13 games like expected, I see Andrews' final numbers to be around... 55 targets, 42 receptions, 450 yards and 5 TD's. That'll put him around 7 points per week. If you're ok with about 2.5 receptions for around 26.5 yards every week, then have at it. To be fair, he did only get 1 catch for 5 yards Sunday night, so this week he could get 4 for 45 to even it out. So there is that. I wouldn't have a problem with 8.5 from a TE... and it might be a week he gets a TD, so boom, 14+ points.

I'm surprised he went undrafted. I mean, even in my 8-team office league, he was drafted in the last round.

Probably homer Chief's fans and then Dolphin's fans. All like, 1 of them.

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I wouldn't want to count on Andrews whether Likely is playing or not. In the past, Andrews was Jackson's guy. We saw the other night, that isn't the case. Yeah, I know Jackson only threw the ball 19 times, but he only averages 27 attempts per start. I don't envision Andrews topping 5 targets in any game this year... unless a LOT of players get hurt.

I think this belongs in the "Week 1 Overreaction" thread.

Got it. You choose to believe Trump when you want to and when you don't want to. Makes sense from the communist perspective. My guess is that the Republican's won't vote to release it for the same reasons that the Democrats didn't... there's too many names in there that need covering up. Maybe Trump is in there... maybe it's not. My guess still is that there's nothing really tying Trump to anything and why the Democrats didn't release this prior to the election.

Trump said that he refuses to have anything released?

It's so good that they never released it prior to the election. Weird, they had no problem lying to the country about Russia Collusion, but if this were actually legit... they kept it quiet.