TBayXXXVII

So, Trump just saved the US $440M dollars. How much does that offset the $150 a month Americans are going to have to pay up because of the tariff's?

He can't do that... because if he did, then he'd have to practice what he preached. He'd just rather virtue signal and sound like the good guy when all he's doing is saying, "you should listen to me, but I don't have to do it". It's like all those liberal dopes on college campus' that say socialism is better than capitalism or that they support DEI because of white privilege. But then if you ask them to give up their scholarship or grant money to a non-white person, all of a sudden it's "Well, I shouldn't have to because...." or "Well, I earned my spot....". It should always be someone else that has to give up, not them. Then they sit there and condemn people who don't agree with them.

That's not hard to believe. Currently in the NFL, there's only 5 franchise QB's and they were drafted in 2017 (1), 2018 (2), & 2020 (2).

I do find that humorous. We all know that behind EVERY president there's someone or some group actually pulling the strings. People always look the other way (for some unknown reason). But now, when we actually know who to hold accountable, there's a problem? Liberals are very stupid people.

I thought Trump always lies. NOW, you believe him?

Come on dude, we know there's at least 81,284,666... right?

You're welcome.

I'd wall off California too. I'd have done that years ago.

I would just think that it would be funny to allow the liberals to get what they want. Illegals are free (in California), and then give California back to Mexico. Everyone wins. We don't have to spend any time and money deporting illegals, because they'll go willingly... it's what liberals want, right? Illegals to be free in the US. Problem solved. Then we address another issue the liberals have. They always gripe how the US stole land. Well, in this case, Mexico agrees. So, after the illegals go to California, we give California back to Mexico. Problem solved. No more illegals and no more stolen land. No one loses.

You know what would've been great... Trump sending ICE to 101 and arrest and deport all the undocumented. When the "sympathizers" attack ICE and get arrested, we'd see how fast the liberals change their tune on attacking federal agents and the rule of law.

So, how about this new Executive Order.... The US will allow every illegal immigrant to live in California, without fear of deportation. Then, Trump signs an agreement with Mexico, to give California back to them... and we wall off California.

A lot of people missed this fact. Well, I don't know if he was MORE left than right, but he was a lot closer to the middle than the "far right" that people push. He had a lot of both policies/practices based on today's metrics.

He doesn't get it. He never will.

Certainly, but doing the same thing over and over again (meaning, constantly voting establishment), and expecting different results, is the definition of insanity.

That's not what I got from his comments. You said they work harder than American's. I believe his point in response to that is that American's work harder than you think. Also, he wasn't that far off. He said 1% of illegal immigrants work on farms. If we're taking the governments word (I know I'm not), for it that there's only 12M in the US, that's 10%. I think the number is double, of what they're saying, so I'm thinking the total number is 5% in farming. That's not far off 1%. He's a lot closer than you thinking it was 49%.

The estimation is that there's approximately 12 Million illegal immigrants in the country. I have NO DOUBT there's more than that. Let's say they're right.... there's approximately 2.7 million farm workers in the US and if 49% are illegals that's roughly 10%. You weren't all that far off. Personally, I think the number of illegals in this country is double, what they're reporting.

I'm the opposite. Every establishment politician will continue to keep things broken. Give me a new person any day of the week. Blowing things up is exactly what is needed because keeping things cautious is how the establishment politicians stay rich and the middle class gets pushed to the curb. The overwhelming majority of this country is middle class and they let the establishment politicians con them into thinking that they have all the answers. Meanwhile, they're sitting in their 7 and 8 figure gated-community homes with no cares in the world helping their 1% buddies find loopholes in the tax codes and leaving us the bill to pay for the lower class... on top of that, chanting "Tax the Rich". Yeah, fock them... all 537 (historically), them. You keep voting for establishment and then keep complaining about the results. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Of course they are. They have to push that right now because they're waiting for a catalyst to jump start the next agenda. I have no doubt those scumbags are hoping for a mass shooting somewhere. Or, they just need to wait a little longer to contrive another way to impeach Trump again. They need to bide their time because Republican's hold the majority in the House right now.

I definitely agree with the premise, I disagree with you on the root cause though. I think you're substantially over simplifying the reason business want the cheaper labor. Overhead is the highest expense for businesses. The best way for businesses to keep costs down and compete is to reduce costs where they can and still put out a product that people will buy. I think unions and the governments force of unions is a major cause, plus the encouragement in the 70's for businesses to operate overseas, and the growing arbitrary increase of minimum wages. Those 3 things over the last 50 years as whole, all are major contributing factors to the reasons businesses are not only choosing to hire illegals, but are almost forced to hire them. Both parties are implicit in these 3 things, it's why I'll never understand why ANYONE would put their trust in any establishment politician.

Im guessing that they're planning on switching gears for a while. Probably going to put the woke DEI / tranny agenda on the back burner for a little while and go back to the ban guns agenda again. That had more legs.

This is promising.

I agree. What makes you think either party will enforce that?

Yeah I don't really put people on ignore, but when they move past serious member to troll, it's probably time.

The only people who should ever address that dope on this board, are liberals.

I'm not for giving anyone who came here illegally, a green card. Come in the right way, and get one that way.