TBayXXXVII

Certainly, but doing the same thing over and over again (meaning, constantly voting establishment), and expecting different results, is the definition of insanity.

That's not what I got from his comments. You said they work harder than American's. I believe his point in response to that is that American's work harder than you think. Also, he wasn't that far off. He said 1% of illegal immigrants work on farms. If we're taking the governments word (I know I'm not), for it that there's only 12M in the US, that's 10%. I think the number is double, of what they're saying, so I'm thinking the total number is 5% in farming. That's not far off 1%. He's a lot closer than you thinking it was 49%.

The estimation is that there's approximately 12 Million illegal immigrants in the country. I have NO DOUBT there's more than that. Let's say they're right.... there's approximately 2.7 million farm workers in the US and if 49% are illegals that's roughly 10%. You weren't all that far off. Personally, I think the number of illegals in this country is double, what they're reporting.

I'm the opposite. Every establishment politician will continue to keep things broken. Give me a new person any day of the week. Blowing things up is exactly what is needed because keeping things cautious is how the establishment politicians stay rich and the middle class gets pushed to the curb. The overwhelming majority of this country is middle class and they let the establishment politicians con them into thinking that they have all the answers. Meanwhile, they're sitting in their 7 and 8 figure gated-community homes with no cares in the world helping their 1% buddies find loopholes in the tax codes and leaving us the bill to pay for the lower class... on top of that, chanting "Tax the Rich". Yeah, fock them... all 537 (historically), them. You keep voting for establishment and then keep complaining about the results. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Of course they are. They have to push that right now because they're waiting for a catalyst to jump start the next agenda. I have no doubt those scumbags are hoping for a mass shooting somewhere. Or, they just need to wait a little longer to contrive another way to impeach Trump again. They need to bide their time because Republican's hold the majority in the House right now.

I definitely agree with the premise, I disagree with you on the root cause though. I think you're substantially over simplifying the reason business want the cheaper labor. Overhead is the highest expense for businesses. The best way for businesses to keep costs down and compete is to reduce costs where they can and still put out a product that people will buy. I think unions and the governments force of unions is a major cause, plus the encouragement in the 70's for businesses to operate overseas, and the growing arbitrary increase of minimum wages. Those 3 things over the last 50 years as whole, all are major contributing factors to the reasons businesses are not only choosing to hire illegals, but are almost forced to hire them. Both parties are implicit in these 3 things, it's why I'll never understand why ANYONE would put their trust in any establishment politician.

Im guessing that they're planning on switching gears for a while. Probably going to put the woke DEI / tranny agenda on the back burner for a little while and go back to the ban guns agenda again. That had more legs.

This is promising.

I agree. What makes you think either party will enforce that?

Yeah I don't really put people on ignore, but when they move past serious member to troll, it's probably time.

The only people who should ever address that dope on this board, are liberals.

I'm not for giving anyone who came here illegally, a green card. Come in the right way, and get one that way.

Your solution is more "impractical, impossible in large numbers, immoral, and frankly anti-American", than what he said or what's happening. Sure, fine people, nothing wrong with that. People pay fines all the time. After that though, what you said is completely absurd and goes against the Constitution. If they are legal, they should be citizens. If they're citizens, they can't be threatened with deportation. If they're citizens, they have the constitutional right to vote. To make people live here in fear, LEGALLY, with limited rights is a thousand times worse than deporting them. That said, I fully expect this to be a more mainstream liberal/leftist idea. Reason being, it makes them targets of the left to exploit. After 10 years or so, you can claim you were wrong (which we knew at the time), and fight for them to be citizens with all rights. That way when they get it, you can fear monger them into thinking that if Republicans get control, they'll take those rights away and deport them.

I find it odd that the communist regime known as Google, would do this. My guess is to keep adding fuel to the liberal fire that burns and destroys our country.

The farm workers are. The construction workers and what have you, they're getting less than what the going rate was... that's why they're the ones working and not American's.

Wait, how is she on? I thought Trump did not allow her to exercise her right to free speech?

Racists cops!!! How come they didn't try to shoot him in the leg???? You run, you fight, you're likely to die.... whether you're white, black, or whatever. Don't be stupid. Listen to the cops.

I find it entertaining that "slavery is bad", yet we're ok with essentially doing the same thing (just calling it a different name), with Hispanics. Back in the day, black folks were put to work on farms/plantations by property owners and given crappy housing, food, and a community. Today, the government is giving crappy housing, food, and a community, so that business owners can get cheap labor. Yeah, I know... (it's (D)ifferent), these people are getting paid. LOL Yeah, they're getting paid, less money (which is illegal), than the going rate of minimum wage and on top of that, the business owners don't even have to pay taxes for them. It's slavery... just called "undocumented workers". Democrats always looking for ways to dehumanize non-whites, and here, they keep calling conservatives "white supremacists". Go figure.

That's just another troll Rusty or Gutterboy alias. Why bother?

No he wouldn't. The left has shown that the only credible "marginalized people", are on the left. Anyone who's in those groups, but on the right, is looked down upon and viewed as a traitor.

Gotchya. You don't like him, so anything the leftists do to him, is ok. Yet, reciprocation is fascism or something else.

You know what else is funny? If Biden's administration and party didn't constantly go after Trump on bull crap, they probably wouldn't have felt that way in the first place.

LOL, you know what's funny? Back during Trump's first term, the liberal media was saying that if Trump made any pre-emptive pardons for his friends and family, they would then know all those people were actually guilty.

Nothing like setting up expectations to be so high, that if you're not #1, you underachieved. LOL https://www.mlb.com/news/most-interesting-mlb-player-projections-for-2025 Paul Skenes projected to win Triple Crown and have the highest WAR for a pitcher. Essentially making him an MVP candidate as well.

The why did Joe pardon Hunter dating back to 2014, preemptively?