TBayXXXVII

https://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/topic/522341-would-you-draft-jefferson-round-two/?do=findComment&comment=7590201

Barkley was traded to Phoenix in '92. The following year, they signed AC Green to be a Sixth Man. That's really all there was. What you're probably thinking about is Karl Malone, Horace Grant, & Gary Payton trying to cash in on Shaq and Kobe's final year together in LA back in 2003-04.

Don't forget, he even tried to build a Super Team and couldn't get the job done.

DJ Moore in 2021 had 93 receptions for 1157 yards and 4 TD's. He was WR18 that year. Clearly, he was a quality receiver. Even with Justin Fields, Moore was able to post 96, 1364, & 8... good for WR6 last year. Explain to me why Justin Fields was able to make Moore a top 7 (fantasy WR), and Darnold couldn't get him in the top 15... but Darnold will be able to make Jefferson a top 3 WR.

Sure, I don't discount that and actually think that'll happen. Just like I think it'll happen to Darnold. If you take only the games where Darnold threw at least 19 passes (59 games - that's me being nice and not counting a game where he was 5 for 15 for 43 yards and 2 Ints and others alike), obviously still counting this 3 game start... an average 17 game season would be: 322 for 534 (60.3%), 3621 yards, 20 TD's, and 16 Int's (80.8 passer rating) So, a 59 game sample size and you don't think that it's reasonable to expect Darnold to finish with numbers similar?

What if their defense is too good to get into shoot out?

Sam Darnold 2021, first 4 games: 67.8%, 1187 yards, 5 TD's, 3 Int's, record 3-1. Sam Darnold 2021, last 8 (7 starts), games: 55.4%, 1338 yards, 4 TD's, 10 int's, record 1-6. Those who fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it. I still stand by my assessment. I'd definitely would take him in the 2nd round and I believe he'll be a top 7 WR, just not top 3. Right now he's WR5. Sounds right to me. I also said I don't think he gets 10+ targets a game... so far, he's at 8, 7, 6.

There isn't a KC RB worth rostering because you can't count on any of them. Andy Reid will game plan to throw the ball 40+ times and run with whatever RB best fits the matchup that day. It'll change week to week and maybe even quarter by quarter. Don't waste you're time trying to play Russian Roulette with their backfield. Just look elsewhere unless you have no choice. If that is the case where you have no choice, then hanging on to Perine is the right move.

Ah, thanks. Then I'd cut Amari Cooper. LOL Seriously though, my initial thinking was because I'm of the mindset that the OLine in LA will not keep Herbert on the field. Last year and this year tells me that their OLine can't block worth a crap and the passing game will suffer. Plus, I think Herbert will miss multiple games. Then I did some looking and saw that Heinicke is the backup. I'm ok with him as a backup, so I'll agree with you to cut Robinson and keep Johnston. To note, I'm not high on the idea that Nacua AND Kupp will be healthy at the same time very often. If you want a poster child of "injury prone", both would fit. Kupp is 31 and has missed at least 1 game in 6 or his (now) 8 seasons. Only once did he start every game. He's missed at least 5 games 3 of his prior 7 seasons. Nacua isn't much different. In his 4 college seasons, he's played 10 or more games only once and already missed multiple games this year. I'll throw this out there... by seasons end, I think Robinson's snap count isn't too far from Nacua's or Kupp's. In games where Nacua and/or Kupp are out, I think Robinson's production will be consistent... possibly more consistent than Johnston, but I certainly believe that Robinson's ceiling is lower. I'm going to say that there will be 10 (more) games this year where Robinson will be the WR1 or WR2 in LA. In those games, I think he'll routinely get about 8 to 10 fpg with an occasional TD here and there that could deliver a big week (for him). I think the OLine and QB uncertainty could lead to 20 fp games for Johnston, but also 6 fp games. I mean, Johnston's numbers aside from TD's aren't much different than Robinson's. Johnston's game totals are 12, 22, & 7, and the only reason they aren't 6, 10, & 7 is because of the TD's, when Herbert is healthy and on the field. Robinson is at 4, 7, & 8 as the WR3, then WR2.

Re-looking at his rosters, not realizing he has BOTH Kupp and Nacua, I agree with you.

I'll still stand by my assessment. He's good, so he'll have a good/great game from time to time. He's not a guy who's QB proof. He needs a good QB to be effective. Nothing wrong with that as at least he can be good. There's a lot of guys that no matter how good or great their QB is, they still can't be good... see MVS, Juju, Gabe Davis, as examples.

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I'd do it.

I firmly believe that LBJ was behind everything involving JFK being killed.

We don't want to make the libby's cry, so you may want to be specific on this. Was Trump actually injured in the second attempt?

Pretty sure that was a joke.

Different Tampa era. More like Ryan Fitzpatrick circa 2018. The Panthers aren't a good team. They'll get a short burst of energy and hope, but overall, the team isn't that good and the coaching isn't there.

IF Trump gets 25-30% of the black vote and wins the election because he won a state or two he's not expected to, like NY or IL for example, I guarantee you that in the 2028 elections reparations will 100% be at the forefront. Liberals need to enslave the black vote, it's paramount to their future.

Jack Bauer

I agree, it's the good and bad luck of it all. Since the internet has become common place, as well as YouTube, podcasts, satellite radio, etc., the amount of information regarding fantasy football is not only everywhere, it's free and or/cheap. On top of that, there are pay websites that somehow make a lot of money for concocting information that is portrayed as "game changing" in the fantasy world, but is still relatively common place. In the end, if you are playing in a league where everyone is on the same level as you, luck (good and bad), are the only separators of results. I'm in 3 leagues... in 2 leagues, I have a LOT of injuries and not enough roster spots or IR spots to really handle things the best. I'm not dropping someone like Tee Higgins for a spot fill that probably won't be a difference maker. So, I'll start someone like Javonte Williams and hope for the best. I'd rather start off 1-2 or 0-3 knowing I'm only a little health away from making a run. It's still early, I'm not going to try to address right now and screw myself of any future hope. All you have to do is make the playoffs. In one of my leagues, I've been fortunate to have no real injury issues (knock on wood). I've been starting Stroud, Mayfield, J. Taylor, Barkley, R. Rice, Godwin, Chase or R. White, and TE, K, & DE of the day (Engram is my only injury issue). I'm the top scoring team in the league and 3-0. It's all luck. Anyone tell you otherwise, they're trying to either boast about how great they are or make an excuse on the rules to justify why their team isn't good... yet maintain how great they are at fantasy football. Just try to migrate through injuries to give you the best chance to win now without selling out the future. If it works out, great. If it doesn't, it's not the end of the world, there's still next year. Use this year as a learning experience on ways to work around adversity and challenge yourself to come up with more clever ways to make things work. Even if you have to lose a trade to upgrade you're team, do it. If you have 3 good receivers, try buying quantity with quality to make another position better. If the best RB on your team or waivers is Rico Dowdle, and you need an RB, try trading Justin Jefferson for Drake London and Devin Singletary and cut Dowdle. Yeah, your WR's might take a hit, but you've upgraded your RB and as time goes, London could pick up and still be WR1 for you, the rest of the way.

It's only 3 weeks. I don't think we've really seen much of anyone to say we know who these guys are. Seriously, look at the TE position, outside of Bowers, every other TE is droppable. LOL Geodert, had a 27 point game, the other 2, he totaled 14. The only reason he even got 27 was because Brown was out. Kmet is no different... 25 points this week, only 8 the first 2 weeks combined. LaPorta wasn't doing anything before he got hurt. He had 12 total points in the first 2 games. Kelce doesn't even have 70 total yards yet.

Week 1, on 12 touches, Elliott had 12.9 ppr points, so about 1 point per touch. For the season, he's averaging 0.846 points per touch. Jahmyr Gibbs is RB12 right now (in ppr), averaging 1 point per touch. Maybe if Dallas didn't get blown out W2 and getting blown out W3, Elliott could still be getting about a point per touch. Week 1, he was RB24. I don't think anyone said he'd be an RB2, I believe everyone was of the mindset that he'd be an RB3/4. Over 3 games, averaging about .85 points per touch seems like a guy who'd get about 10-12 points a week which falls into the RB3/RB4 range. In PPR leagues, he's RB41, which means that if you're in a 12 team league, there's a very high chance that the RB you pick up will be worse than him.

Ok.

Basically Reed for Shaheed because Steele has no value in any format. I'd still do that deal... especially on the off chance that Steele actually becomes something.