TBayXXXVII

If Foreman's accounts are true (via his attorney), then he handled the situation perfectly and I don't believe any disciplinary actions should or will be taken by the justice system or the NFL. In fact, if the story is correct, it should be used as the model on how to handle a situation when the only thing you are personally guilty of is a standard traffic violation.

Yup.

I see it the same way I see Winston (since they were exactly the same situations). I'll give him a pass until he does something in the league.

The same was said about Winston and he's been fine. I'm willing to give a college kid some latitude. It's not like he (they), were doing the same crap that Manziel was doing.

What did the Bucs all of a sudden get a pass rush? I wouldn't even pick them up on waivers let alone draft them.

Jordy is also 32 years old father time is waiting around the corner. I'll give him this and one more year before an unavoidable drop off. Marshall showed last year that 2015 was his swan song, he's not stealing passes from anyone. Beckham should have another 7 years of top end production. There's no way I trade someone with 7 years of high end production for someone with 2 and another player who's a part-timer.

Well, if you say so...

If someone offered me a young stud WR for an aging WR only 1-year removed from a knee injury and RB on a terrible team who's going to be splitting duties, I'd laugh in his face while I hit accept and mock him forever for gifting me that deal. I couldn't imagine why'd more would have to be offered.

I don't know... he did one thing in college, that it looks like he really didn't do, but that's building a reputation? Ok....

LOL... didn't he just do that last year? He's getting suspended for something he did in college!

I'll still take him #2. Championships aren't won or lost in the first 2 games of any fantasy season. If you need 13 games out of Elliott to make it to the playoffs, then you're going to hoping to be lucky in order to win. Last year, because people were all WR happy and down on Bell, I was able to draft Elliott #6 (Brown, Jones, Beckham, Johnson, and Hopkins were 1-5), I was able to get Bell in the second round... all because he was going to miss the first couple games. I was able to get my #3 ranked RB as the 8th RB off the board!!

Looks like he's already on that path. In 2015, he dropped 11 balls on 143 targets. Last year, he dropped 7 in 173 targets. I hope everyone in my leagues think like bjsteel. I might be able to get a top 5 WR in the 3rd round and a top 5 QB in 15th!! LOL... Winston needing to grow up. With a mediocre OLine, injured RB's and only Evans and Brate to throw to, he finished 11th in QB's. Adding Howard and Jackson to the mix plus an improved OLine, he should be well in the top 10 and possibly top 5. Yeah, he needs to up.

Recently.... Vincent Jackson had a good year in Tampa Maclin was good in Kansas City. Garcon got hurt in his first year in Washington, but he was on pace to at least replicate his prior years numbers. DeSean Jackson had a good year in his first year in Washington as well. Crabtree was better in Oakland than in SF. Just going to add this in here. The following is what I think, not what I know. The current game that the NFL has become leads me to believe that QB's and WR's now have a much easier time transitioning into the league and being more productive more quickly.

I wasn't comparing them.

I don't target any handcuffs... ever. If I get one, fine, but I never reach for him.

If you remember, he was bust in Oakland before he went to New England.

He was a QB at Kent St, but the Patriots drafted him as a WR. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/2009_draft.htm According to Edleman, Belichick didn't even know what position he'll play him in. http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2015/04/julian_edelman_says_bill_belic.html "Eeeeeeedelman, I don't know what we're going to do with you, but you're a hell of a football player."

Two separate arguments really. One is what the Redskins are telling me about Doctson, the other is my opinion on Pryor. I think the guy will be fine, but I don't agree with giraldi when he says that Pryor "has proven" what he could do. No one proves anything by doing it once... to me, you prove it by doing it twice. In general, we've all seen tons players do things once and never do it again. I mean, just look at my Buccaneers... Josh Freeman's 2010 season, Michael Clayton's 2004 season, Cadillac Williams' 2005 season. All one-year wonders that never panned out. While the actions with the Bears were somewhat similar, I'm confused on what the Bears expect to happen this year. With the Redskins, I think they believe they can be a playoff team (and I agree... they could be), I don't think the Bears see themselves that way. By signing Glennon and drafting Trubisky, it looks to me like they're trying to just be competent this year to buy time for Trubisky. They brought in Wright, Cruz, and Wheaton, so my guess is that they're thinking that either Meredith or White will take a step forward but are building depth in case White gets hurt again. I think they're less confident in White than the Redskins are in Doctson.

I don't think that's true at all. He has some flaws and some issues he needs to work on, so he's not perfect or a finished product, but he's playing pretty well. This year is a pivotal year for him. If he cleans up some of these issues, he could be really good... if he doesn't, he'll only be decent. Even at that, to say he "isn't very good" is a big overly negative. At the level he played at last year, he was a top 15 QB.

I never once hinted at any of the sort. When I said a #1 WR, I mean for the Redskins, not fantasy, and I said as much. Also, I don't think anyone who has done something only 1 time in 4 seasons has "proven" anything. To me, I need to see you do it twice. That though, isn't the argument I'm making. I've stated numerous times that my point is, the Redskins actions have told me that they believe in Doctson will have a big role this season.

I'm not saying anything about either of them. I saying how I read the actions made by the Redskins. They let Garcon and Jackson go without batting an eye not knowing who they could get in free agency. They went into free agency and only signed 1 WR to a one-year prove-it contract... all with knowing that they only had Doctson and Crowder. Then, they went into the draft and took only 1 WR in the 6th round (I believe... might be 5th), who was considered a long term project. Those actions tell me that the Redskins believe in Doctson.

Oh, I fully expect them all to be front loaded... just like I would have expected Pryor's to have been had he gotten one. A multi-year contract gives teams much more flexibility if they're right about a player and could extend them easier. A one-year contract gives the player all chips. Now, if Pryor goes off, the Redskins will now be forced to pay him a big deal or franchise him. Had they given him a 2 or 3 year deal, they could most likely would have been able to get him cheaper on an extension. Yes, I agree. Pryor could have preferred the one year deal. The question is, "Why?" It would be because no one was willing to "believe" in him and pay him.

"Thinking" he could do it again isn't the same as "believing" he can do it again. If they (and by "they", I mean all 32 teams), "believed" he could do it again, he would have gotten a deal better than a one-year prove-it deal. This was a very weak class for free agent WR's. With guys like Torrey Smith, Kenny Britt, Cordarrelle Patterson, Robert Woods all getting multi-year contracts (all of who stink), I'd think there would have been someone to offer Pryor a multi-year deal if they "believed" he could do it again. Now, do they "think" he could do it again? Yes, that's why - as you said - "was willing to take the chance on him", and that's why they gave him the prove-it deal. You take chances on players you "think" can play... not the one's you "believe" can play.

I dove into Brees' numbers a bit more. While he was still generally good, aside from like 1 or 2 seasons, Brees has definitely been a lot worse on the road compared to home games. That said, I don't think many QB's (ever), are much different.

That's right... they "hope" he can. They're not banking on it, which is why they didn't give him a long term deal.