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Yeah I agree those arguments are ridiculous as well.

Serial killers don’t become cops. It’s like saying if elephants drive cars they’d be great employees for Uber.

And as for the wife & the claim about him beating her, fine, bring that in Maryland, but the same woman says Garcia was never involved with MS13. So pick your poison.

I posted the whole finding of facts from the 2nd hearing. My guess is looking at it someone heard Garcia was wanted by Barrio 18 & either the informant or the cop conflated that with being in MS13.

Exactly. Just a matter of time. And if a trans cop saved a family member of anyone they’d just say thanks.

You kid but I’s all silly at this point. Gays are already allowed & the USSC already ruled on that. Trying to make distinctions just lands pretty much like this kind of ridiculousness.

Eh not really. Constitutionally I probably agree with the majority but it’s foolish from a security perspective. In 2000 when running for the Reform Party nomination Donald Trump supported gays in the military. I notice no one in maga crows about that issue anymore.

At the bond hearing a magistrate accepted an affidavit from a cop to deny bail. At the subsequent determinative hearing it was found he had no gang ties. None, quite the opposite. A gang tried to recruit him when he was 12years old to get at his family.

Yep. If someone is willing to lay down their life for our country I say welcome aboard.

I love his the mystery of a guy with no M-13 connections being defamed across the world as being an MS-13 criminal must have some explanation to it.

Tornado ravaged Mississippi still waiting for FEMA aid. >>“We feel hopeful that they will look favorably upon our application,” Scott Simmons, director of external affairs at MEMA, told the Mississippi Free Press on April 29.<<

The leader of the nation has declared foreign films a national security threat & has taken measures ti ensures Americans watch fewer of them.

NYT

Hey it's cool, LOL I actually said the thing you requested I say. But anyway. I enjoyed the discussion, thank you for the responses.

Trump's DHS.

Why, Strike, I must say, you are correct that he wasn't ordered released. Perhaps we should discuss what the Trump administration could have done based upon what was ordered: Presumably the Trump DHS had no basis to find he was a danger to the community, because they did not appeal. They could have found some new basis, which again they did not have since they did not file new request for removal/deportation.

1. The judge - not in the Trump administration - made the ruling. Then - No. 2 - the Trump administration could have appealed or sought to hold him on a different basis. My point to Strike was that the judge's ruling left no room for the Trump administration to do either of those things. They had no basis to hold Garcia.

Well then I disagree. The right wing is arguing that the 2019 order only applied to Guatemala.

Look Strike, much respect, I'm serious. My point (after your excellent responses) wasn't that the judge ordered him released, my point was that the Trump administration in 2019. The judge stated there was no basis for removal - there was no danger to the community (and again look at the court's findings) - so what basis did the Trump DHS have for holding him?

You're talking about something completely different here. This is the Trump DOJ's claim - in 2025 - about sending Garcia to the maxi-prison. In 2025, not 2019. There was no "administrative error" in 2019.

Let's say you're right on this. - Fine. But if so that is on the Trump administration. And personally - this is just my POV - actually no, I disagree because the judge left them no choice. You disagree with me, fine, but in the facts - which I quoted for you in SPOILERS - there was no basis for holding him. And yes that's why I posted the order, I'm fine with you arguing about it but I see it differently.

The right is arguing that the order did not apply to El Salvador. Right, but at that point there was no basis for Trump's INS/DOJ to hold him, so they released him. After he won the “withholding of removal” decision, Trump's own agencies released Garcia to go home. The Trump ICE/DHS saw no any danger to the community because they did not appeal which they could have. Instead they monitored Garcia who made all appointments and that continued for 5+ years.

This is in the Order.

I just responded to you, glad to discuss. My only point when I posted the 1st time was that Garcia was ordered released in 2019 and the Trump administration didn't appeal it. I'm sure you agree it says that much.

So the "Witholding of removal" means specifically to a single country, in this case El Salvador. Apparently SID read this ENTIRE document EXCEPT the one sentence that blows his whole narrative up. ... For one thing, you ...(not accusing you of anything btw)... you failed to point out that the court was referring to a different, cited case. (INS vs. Aguirre). It wasn't the case at issue, it was a general rule. For another - the facts found by the court - which I quoted for you further up - are all about Garcia's history in El Salvador. And the above.