SaintsInDome2006

Here’s something funny. Even though Congress has appropriated funds for UA support in 2025 & 2026, Trump has broken the law by withholding all funds in those years. And in 2025 Trump personally cut a deal with the EU to backfill anything they gave to UA. Then when the EU did that & came looking for the backfill, the US - us/we - stiffed them. Isn’t that a Great way for America to be? But here’s the funny part. Now *Trump needs minesweepers & litoral ships to clean the mines but - guess what? - Trump scrapped those capabilities because he thought they were pointless. But EU has them! So now the rumor is the EU is pushing Trump to release funds & equipment to Ukraine in exchange for the minesweepers so he can get out of his jam, well our jam that he put us in. We don’t know if that’s going to happen but it will be funny if it does. Slava.

Right it’s been implicit throughout this thread. Ukraine should just quit because they’ll never win. Oh if they quit they’ll lose everything? No difference. Oh they’re winning? No difference.

Ha good point.

Eh, probably. Congress intervened before it could take effect (iirc) & (iirc) the Dems put up a rule or filibuster requiring 60 votes to get to a vote and not surprisingly the GOP didn’t get there. Constitutionally twisted but that’s where we are these days. Of course in that situation there was a lot of time to act & everyone saw the 196 page agreement. Here the President is signing Friday & no one’s seen it (all 1.5 pages) & it sounds like Graham & Co. won’t even force a vote. But we’ll see.

Just a nugget I read earlier today - apparently a few years back, maybe Biden era, the GOP was up in arms about the possibility of lowering Iran sanctions, so they passed a poison pill bill that said if the US lowered sanctions on Iran the Congress would have to approve it. That might apply to unfreezing of assets too. Beyond that Graham has said that the Senate will have to approve the MOU but as you may have seen further up Trump basically said he would yank Graham’s chain & put him in his place. Basic drug lord stuff. Because, yaknow, Republicans have had the temerity to ask to so much as see it. They’re gonna shove this shît sandwich down the Americans’ people’s throats before anyone can say word boo.

<<<The president began with a classic Trumpian move, daring his listeners to forget today what they knew yesterday. Just this winter, Trump had promised the Iranian people that the tyrants who ruled them would be gone. But now? “I never cared about regime change,” he told reporters, waving away his failure to achieve a primary strategic goal by denying that it had ever been a goal at all. Things got a little weirder, however, when he described the Iranians who have stepped in to replace the regime leaders killed in U.S. strikes: “We’re dealing with people that I think are very rational people. And they were nice to deal with.” “They were strong people, smart people,” he added. And then he dropped this remarkable claim: “They’re not radicalized, and they’re, you know, looking to help their country.” … “I call it the nuclear dust, their enriched material, right?” Trump said. (Why he calls it this remains a mystery.) Does America still insist on its removal from Iran? Well, maybe. “The whole mountain has collapsed on top. We have cameras on it,” Trump said. “You could make the case ‘Why are you even bothering?’ ’cause it’s not really valuable. It’s, you know, it’s probably half a million dollars’ worth. It’s not very valuable stuff, but I think psychologically we wanna get it.”>>> Link

This is bad.

Here he is with Macron helping him again.

He looks awful. What an image, Macron guiding him. At least he’s standing in that one.

$300 billion to Iran. Plus $30 billion from UAE. Plus $24 billion from the US. Plus sanctions lifted. Plus we took out the bad guys’ opposition. For something we had already (an open Strait) & a bunch of beans in a bag labeled ‘60 day negotiation’ to get something we also previously had from the JCPOA. We have been swindled, hoodwinked, bamboozled & taken to the cleaners, by a bunch of terrorist, murderous thugs.

It had problems, but now that we’ve gone through all this it’s become obvious that certain things were always going to be needed. An inspection & verification mechanism, sanctions relief, ***money. What’s kind of crazy is Trump has made Obama look good. And there’s this - we had already *paid the Iranians. They were locked in & we had multiple other nations including Russia & China (!) as signatories. It’s like if you had bought a car, everyone said it was a lemon, so you grow tired of the chatter & you just dump it on the highway even though you’d paid for it. Then you realize you ain’t got no car! It’s not safe! You need a car! Duh! Need another one, but now the car everyone told you was a lemon costs thousands more. It’s so utterly , blazingly, mindbottlingly stupid.

Yes, it’s a little odd to say the least. The doc has been finalized for some time. It’s 1.5 pages long. Vance signed it yesterday. But! they’re not releasing it. Today Trump said he would **read the text of the MOU out loud in the next couple days. He signs Friday. I don’t know if the markets are open Friday. But yeah there’s at least a 3+ day window for those with insider knowledge to act accordingly. It’s bad all around.

Well at this point they’re taking more land than they’re losing, and they’re killing more Russians than their losses. So all good.

Russia steps up its attacks on NATO