SaintsInDome2006

I agree, but fwiw it’s pretty short. It says she identified tge property as secondary but rented the property to a family of three (parents and a child I guess).

Thanks. I don’t think that’s the charge here though. I think Halligan is claiming James identified it as a secondary property but then rented it.

I understand,, I’m just trying to get it for my own purposes. So if I buy a vacation property in Florida, but I end up not going for one reason or another (work, life, family, whatever), if I start putting it on AirBNB it’s a crime?

So a secondary home is like a vacation home, or like a home to get away outside the city, something like that? And if I buy a house identifying it as such I can’t rent it even if I stay there every so often?

Thank you.

Thanks. I thought that that was what this was going to be about but the indictment doesn’t mention anything about a primary residence. It describes a property James identified as a secondary residence, but maybe I need to look again. Apologies if I’m wrong on that.

>>The Minister of the Interior and Justice, and number two in command of the Chavista regime, Diosdado Cabello, harshly criticized statements by the opposition leader, María Corina Machado, in which she expressed her support for the anti-narcotic procedures advanced by US forces in the Caribbean Sea to pressure the Government of Nicolás Maduro, whom she accuses of being part of the Cartel de los Soles.<< - Machado just won the Nobel Peace Prize. Btw who is more like Trump here, Machado or Maduro?

For those of us with property, can someone explain the issue? If I take a loan to buy a vacation home in Florida, I can’t rent it out? Or if I take out a loan for a rental property in the French Quarter, I can’t occasionally stay there? What’s the actual prohibition here? TIA.

He did have a good game last night. Giants really got something there.

Yeah this is sad.

The guy collects grease oil from hotel & restaurant kitchens, thats as blue collar as it gets.

>>Sanchez remains in the hospital in a stable condition, and has been charged with battery resulting in bodily injury, unauthorized entry of a motor vehicle, and public intoxication endangering the life of another, according to the affidavit.<< Good chance Sanchez is going to jail. Sounds like he just decided he was going to kick someone’s ass that night, & he picked the wrong guy.

Halligan appears to think Brooklyn is in New Jersey.

I’m bringing it up because a conviction requires motive & intent, & the same underlying set of facts concern two other transactions that appear to have already been shut down.

Trump’s war on the left: Inside the plan to investigate liberal groups >>WASHINGTON, Oct 9 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's threatened crackdown on the finances and activities of liberal non-profits and groups opposed to his agenda is a multi-agency effort with top White House aide Stephen Miller playing a central role, according to officials. The Trump administration plans to deploy America's counter-terrorism apparatus - including the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and the Justice Department - as well as the Internal Revenue Service and the Treasury Department against certain left-wing groups it accuses of funding and organizing political violence, the officials said. The effort marks an escalation in the administration's efforts to target domestic opponents, raising alarm among civil rights groups and Democratic leaders about the use of executive power. Reuters spoke to three White House officials, four Department of Homeland Security officials and one Justice Department official to produce the first comprehensive account of how decisions are being made, forces deployed, and operations coordinated in the crackdown. All of the administration officials spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations more freely. Miller is deeply involved in reviewing government agencies' investigations into the financial networks behind what the administration labels "domestic terror networks," which include nonprofits and even educational institutions, a White House official said. The Trump administration has released some examples of what it alleges are incidents of left-wing violence, but it has provided little evidence of a coordinated effort. …Two weeks after the September 10 assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, Trump issued a presidential memorandum directing the National Joint Terrorism Task Force to focus on "domestic terrorists" whose common ideologies include "anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Christianity." … It named nine liberal groups, donors or fundraising organizations that it said helped finance or plan protests where the violent incidents occurred. While the second White House official stressed that the organizations were not necessarily potential targets, the material provides insight into the administration's thinking. The list includes Soros' Open Society Foundations; ActBlue, the funding arm of the Democratic Party; Indivisible, a grassroots coalition opposed to Trump policies and the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights, a Los Angeles-based group. "The goal is to destabilize Soros’ network," a third White House official said. Ezra Levin, a spokesperson for Indivisible, said the group has never organized or called for violence. "These smears are designed to delegitimize our movement," he said. Carter Christensen, an ActBlue spokesperson, said Trump's crackdown was an attempt to silence dissent. "We take our legal and civic responsibilities seriously," he said. Angelica Salas, the executive director of CHIRLA, said the group advocates peaceful engagement. “The Trump Administration continues to spread misinformation and false allegations," she said in a statement. "But it will not work." Other groups on the list include two Jewish nonprofits that oppose Israel's war in Gaza - IfNotNow and Jewish Voice for Peace. IfNotNow declined to comment, while Jewish Voice for Peace did not respond to a request for comment. TRUMP'S DIRECTIVES CAUSE CONFUSION Miller is taking a "hands-on" role in investigating the funding of nonprofits and educational institutions and is sharing recommendations from Attorney General Pam Bondi and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent with Trump and other top advisers, the first White House official said. The official said Miller is Trump's chief adviser on the issue and is receiving regular updates from the joint terrorism task force - a coalition of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies tasked with investigating terrorism. A DOJ official declined to elaborate on task force plans but said the FBI's role includes analyzing financial networks for funding of activities involving violent crime. Potential tools to defund or shut down these groups include IRS investigations to strip them of tax-exempt status; criminal probes by the Justice Department and FBI; surveillance by federal law enforcement agencies; the use of RICO statutes typically used for organized crime and financial investigations under anti-terror laws to identify donors and funders, according to people familiar with investigations and public statements by officials. "We will continue to get to the bottom of who is funding these organizations," White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters on Monday. Investigating the groups' funding and potentially stripping them of tax-exempt status could force some of them to close down, civil liberty groups say. Trump last month also signed an executive order designating the anti-fascist movement antifa as a domestic terrorist organization, despite the group's decentralized nature and lack of formal structure. At an event with conservative commentators and influencers on Wednesday, Trump requested participants to name groups and funders they claim carry out violence, effectively crowdsourcing potential targets in real time. He then vowed to pursue these groups. ….<<

There were three properties & three cases. Halligan likely failed on the primary case (& maybe even another involving her father) & fell back on this case. One of the counts against Comey failed too so Thats no surprise. >> Pulte and Martin have argued that James committed mortgage fraud because one of the documents related to a 2023 home purchased by James falsely indicated the property would be her primary residence. However, investigators have so far determined that the document -- a limited power of attorney form used by James' niece to sign documents on her behalf when James closed on the home -- was never considered by the loan officers who approved the mortgage, sources said. Lawyers drafted the document itself for a third-party closing company based on a template that was never corrected, sources said, and every other document in James' loan file for the mortgage accurately stated that she would not reside at the home. Prosecutors have not yet been able to produce evidence that James knowingly filled out the power of attorney form incorrectly to influence the bank that issued the mortgage, said sources familiar with the investigation's findings thus far.<< >> A loan underwriter interviewed by investigators said that, in the process of approving the loan, she never looked at or considered the power of attorney document that incorrectly listed the home as James' primary residence, according to sources. While Martin is examining whether another property owned by James in Virginia was inconsistently described as both "second home" and an "investment property," sources said senior DOJ leadership believes Martin would be unable to prove any allegations beyond a reasonable doubt, in part because Fannie Mae guidelines on the issue are too vague. << ABC The indictment alleges James said she would use the property as a secondary home but instead rented it. I take it that’s the last case that was involved & the others must have failed, because it refers to the secondary home being used as a rental. With Comey we found out Halligan barely cleared the threshold for indictment & failed on one of the three counts. I’m guessing when we find out the results here it will be even worse.

I did, I posted it further up.

Sorry politics aside, what is the motive. If I go in with my niece, I co-sign the mortgage, mark it as primary, why doesn’t that mean it’s a primary residence for my niece?

Just remember, FOX *is the mainstream media. But also; >>MSNBC (848 million views), CNN (627 million views), NBC News (424 million views), ABC News (359 million views) and CBS News (163 million views).<< I never understood this. Magaworld is always unified around one channel while everyone else is watching other journalism & news.

Right. Which is why James will voluntarily appear for her summons & why Halligan couldn’t get anyone in her office to sign for this thing.

That’s the Bragg case. But at any rate I was making a point about Trump suing his ex-mistress to shut her up, thats actual lawfare. The Bragg thing just raises the issue of how sordid Trump’s behavior is. And frankly no I don’t think a corporation should have a second set of books to cover hush money payments related to the personal scandals of its CEO.

I’m not sure about the penalty. I don’t see it in the indictment but it wouldn’t surprise me. >>Even then, this is not the kind of mortgage fraud case federal prosecutors normally bring. U.S. attorneys offices typically prosecute mortgage fraud cases to nab big-time swindlers attempting to trick banks into six- to eight-figure losses. If Letitia James had committed mortgage fraud, her efforts would have yielded her only thousands of dollars—tens of thousands at most.<< Im not sure how much is saved for co-signing for a younger relative’s purchase. A few thousand? Whatever sentence would result would be commensurate.

The FEC just said there wasn’t a campaign finance violation. Unfortunately the FEC has become completely neutered, I’m not sure it even functions any longer.

Fwiw I don’t think this is lawfare, which is about civil lawsuits. So for instance when Trump sued his porn star ex-mistress for $20 million to intimidate her into silence, that was lawfare. If this is as unsubstantiated as it looks then this would be malicious prosecution, & if the judge agrees with her on that she might be able to recover money from the US government but also Halligan herself. That’s probably an additional reason no one in her office would sign the indictment.

>>It’s hard to imagine a worse case than the one against James Comey—until you see the one against the attorney general of New York. … At the crux of the allegation is a 2023 power of attorney James signed enabling a third party to settle on a home on her behalf. The two-page document includes the statement, “I HEREBY DECLARE that I intend to occupy this property as my principal residence.” The allegation against James is twofold. First, the criminal referral letter maintains that James falsely stated that she intended to reside primarily in Norfolk. Second, Pulte argues, if she had made her home there, that wouldn’t have been legal either, because her role at the time as N.Y. attorney general required her to reside in the state she represents. Neither part of the accusation bears scrutiny. James did not actually reside in Norfolk, nor is it clear that she ever pretended to. The referral declines to mention that the third party granted the power of attorney was James’s niece. James, according to her legal representation, assisted with the down-payment and co-signed the mortgage documents to help secure the loan, as many a parent has done for a child buying their first home. James did incorrectly indicate on the power of attorney form that she would occupy the property as her principal residence. That may have been an error, or it may have been deliberate. But if it was deliberate, there’s no explaining why, in emails with the mortgage loan broker, she made her actual intentions capital-letters clear: “This property will NOT be my primary residence. It will be Shamice’s primary residence.” A loan application filed after the inaccurate power of attorney reflects this reality; the broker, in an email of his own, confirms it. How do prosecutors expect to prove that James made her false statement knowingly, much less that she intended to deceive a bank when, in these communications, she so evidently told the truth? The only other supporting document Pulte refers to is a Virginia deed of trust, a standardized Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac form describing a borrower’s obligations under a loan. Pulte suggests that by signing the form, James reaffirmed that the Norfolk home would be her primary residence; the relevant section—labeled “Occupancy”—-does require that the borrower “occupy, establish and use the Property as Borrower’s principal residence within 60 days.” But the form is co-signed by James’s niece, presumably satisfying that requirement. This highlights another problem for a potential prosecution: James may not have been applying for a loan for her primary residence, but she was applying for a loan for a primary residence, for her niece. Even if she had intentionally misled a mortgage broker, the distinction between co-borrowing for a primary residence for herself and co-borrowing for a primary residence for the other borrower—as opposed to, say, the distinction between borrowing for a primary residence and for a secondary one—would almost certainly not have led to a meaningful difference in rate. The false statement in the power of attorney, in other words, would have been unlikely to influence the bank’s decision to provide James the loan at the agreed-upon rate, and prosecutors would struggle to show that was her intent.<< Lawfare.