SaintsInDome2006

I thought you were talking about the Saudis & Iranians fighting a Sunni/Shia proxy war in North/South Yemen. The whole thing is going on down the road from Mecca.

Yes Sunnis & Shias had a schism. What else are you referring to when you reference the 7th century?

A 7th century religious schism has *nothing to do with Trump letting our embassy get overrun or permitting Iran to control one of the most valuable shipping lanes in the world.

You miss the point. Say I agree all the Houthis in Sanaa & South Yemen are terrorist scum. Not the Ansar Allah but allll the Houthi people. Fine. They’ve had ~60K killed in the Yemen civil war, half a million lost in a cholera epidemic, & like 15 million affected by famine caused by the civil war & their own psycho leaders. Fine, yes they’re *all scum. But it doesn’t change the fact the military strategy is crap. It has no effect on the populace & Ansar still attacks shipping off the horn. Same goes for Gaza btw. It’s been since 10/7/23 & Hamas is *still in power - that’s on Netanyahu just like Ansar Allah is on on Trump who just let them waltz in in his first term.

I really wonder who is the conservative. The US embassy was overrun under Trump. He did nothing to protect our staff. The only difference from Carter & Tehran is they didn’t take hostages. And Biden bombed Sanaa too. The problem is it’s totally ineffective. But with Trump he’s shown he will recoil if punched in the nose.

I’m not. Bombs away. I was offended by our Yemeni embassy personnel getting frogmarched out during Trump1.

Pfft Buddy my foundation story is I got on here stuck in the CC’s in BR after the storm. I read FF here before I signed up. I know Chuck Muncie ran for 811 yards in ‘77 & that was the old Saints rushing record. You want my top 10 all time Saints QB ranking, I’ll give it to you. I was there that night & I’ve sweat blood through the worst with my team.

Right, not the people with Trumpy Bears & FBI Director Kash Patel children’s books.

Well he tried to have the last one killed, so yeah.

Uhm no. Not my style. I converse with people who I disagree with. Hopefully I learn something.

Oh please, it’s the bank that gave him money when no one else would. Saved him from the sheriff sale at least a couple times.

Iirc DB is Trump’s bank.

>>Even after the president’s partial U-turn – freezing tariffs at 10% on all US imports except those from China for 90 days – markets swung from relief rally to fresh rout, as investors questioned the once unthinkable: could the US dollar be losing its unassailable safe haven status? “The damage has been done,” said George Saravelos, the head of foreign exchange research at Deutsche Bank. “The market is reassessing the structural attractiveness of the dollar as the world’s global reserve currency and is undergoing a process of rapid de-dollarisation.”<< Mistakes were made.

We can’t have public officials or their children doing business in China.

Europe, Asia. The markets we’ve spent treasure & blood to build for ourselves for decades.

Bloomberg reports Trump has reached out to China for a Trump-Xi phone call. Inevitably.

I’ll just add rising bond yields mean greater debt load, perhaps another half trillion $$$ added to this year’s debt expense.

China. Doesn’t. Pay. The. Tariff. It’s an ad valorum tax paid by consumers who shop at places that tend to sell Chinese goods & produce. Yaknow, maga voters.

Totally different issue.

There isn’t a politician who has expressed more love & admiration for Xi & Kim in the US or anywhere in the world than Donald Trump.

They have zero domestic pressure. Mao murdered & starved tens of millions of people. Trump’s won twice & lost once on the whims of 10% of the population in roughly 300 counties. Midterms rest on maybe 5 House seats & 3 Senate seats.

>>A White House official told NBC News that Trump wants to improve the H-2A program, through which employers in the agricultural industry can hire temporary and seasonal workers, and the H-2B program, for hiring immigrant workers for temporary, seasonal jobs in other industry sectors, such as hospitality and entertainment, and in the tourism industry. Trump has used the H-2B program.<< >>Trump has been under some pressure from industries whose workforces include undocumented workers. << >> American farmers also have been raising alarms about the effect Trump's tariff policies and funding cuts to federally subsidized school lunch, food banks and other such programs will have on their livelihoods. In March, business owners and leaders rallied in Washington and met with members of Congress as part of the American Business Immigration Coalition's "Secure the Workforce" campaign, aimed at continuing the flow of immigrant workers to the United States. The group is pushing for legislation that includes, among other things, work permits for immigrant workers.<< +++++++++++++ So pretty much the current system. And of course Trump screws up, makes the economy do summersaults, then the powers that be lobby to educate him about things everyone already knew.

Yes, but since you bring up terrorism, it does belong in the convo and that's a good comp at least. But yes worse than that.

Yes.

Trump v. Thompson.