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I’m not sure ‘this is just another Watergate & Iran-Contra’ is the gotchya you might think. Especially as for Reagan & Nixon they were singular administrative disasters while Trump has had so many (a dozen?) It’s practically a management model.

I do think there is something to the derangement piece though, just like there is to orange man bad. And it’s not really a defense of Maga but it’s kind of understandable almost rational - given this subject, about how no level of insane claim, real or false, is persuasive to the followers - but once someone thinks the political world is insane well yeah I guess then the insane seems like the perfect answer. But I’m guessing that wasn’t the derangement you’re referring to.

Ha ok. Poor humor is my forte. Have a good evening, thanks for the responses.

Trump broke Giuliani in a way that is so complete & total it’s unimaginable. Appeared on national TV in drag. Lost his reputation, all his finances, his law practice, criminally charged, lost his family, his home, forced to live in Florida, completely out of even the Maga political future. Four Seasons humiliation, the dripping hair color, the scene in the movie where he thinks he’s getting lucky with an underaged girl. Just utter devastation.

Yep, a disease shared with some of the best & the brightest in the Trump administration. Generals, chiefs of staff, AGs, Vice Presidents… pretty good deranged company.

So… tonight a senior Trump campaign advisor (Lanza) said on CNN tonight that a very damaging story is emerging in the next couple days & then another after that. First of all again absolutely nothing will dissuade a Trump follower. He could be seen en flagrante with Hillary Clinton, Epstein, Ivanka & Xi & it would not phase them. Secondly I’m starting to wonder if the October Surprise is going to be a salacious story that fits the bill of an October surprise but which will be some sort of sort of super reverse gotcha on whoever scoops it.

Just on this, didn’t the 2 Hunter IRS employees sue the Feds, or am i misremembering that? I know Hunter has sued them or the IRS for privacy violations & IIRC that’s progressing. There are statutes for this stuff, with civil penalties most often. The problem is instead of looking to that is turning to The One Who Only He Can Fix.

I was trying to say Tree made a reasonable, believable point about Axios. However as to this non sequitur, yes they’re all “backstabbing deep staters,” all of them, the swimsuit models, the generals, the decorated heroes, the dedicated staffers, the campaign advisors, the ex-wife, the employees, the Republican Vice Presidents (plural), etc, etc, all of them. A cast of hundreds who testify, who write, who do interviews in person & on background. Oh I hear ya, Trump calls them “nasty” like some elderly version of Annie Wilkes.

Btw Jon, I was talking about Axios turning down the story (which I believe Tree on), not the story itself.

I know, I know. Everyone who’s ever known or worked for Trump, from the lowliest call girls to his employees to the nation’s greatest leaders some of whom he selected himself, come running out of their encounters over and over again flailing their arms warning people, but they’re liars, bookmongers, profiteers, traitors, while the Mark Meadowses & Stephen Millers & Steve Bannons & Charlie Kirks of the world are the *real truth tellers. I understand perfectly well.

Seems reasonable to me, I wouldn’t be surprised if Axios & other US MSM decided not to run the story. Actually I recall a Maga poster here lauding the UK press, maybe the Guardian, for running US stories that US press won’t run.

Funny thing is I could make my point & you could make your point & we’d be saying the same thing.

The DH.

One of Trump’s great innovations is taking negative events & turning it into positive personality themes. Liberals Triggered, the press as Enemies of the People, they’re Trying to Stop The Donald But They Can’t, OMB, TDS, Deep State, Russia Russia Russia, etc. Ten years in it’s playing the hits.

I didn’t know that. It’s definitely tabloid material, I’m guessing other MSM journalists passed on it as well for its luridness. But I also don’t think its truthiness matters to Trump’s supporters. And I’m sure as General noted this likely isn’t whatever claim Halperin was talking about. Even the Guardian states this is a series of continuing reports on Trump in the same vein.

Well my point was nothing could possibly matter so yeah.

I mean I guess I share the derangement with two former GOP vice presidents, a former GOP presidential nominee, a chief of staff, generals, war heroes, cabinet secretaries, press secretaries… quite an elite list of the deranged.

Yeah I saw your post then saw the news report, breaking.

>>A former model who says she met Donald Trumpthrough the late sexual abuser Jeffrey Epstein<<< Linkage. Before we get to the groping thing (predictable responses boffesidez) let’s just keep in mind there are people in Maga who doubt Trump’s friendship with or really courtship of Epstein.

Ha oh let’s not do that.

It’s genuinely amusing thinking what it would take to sink Trump with Magaworld. Even in the wildest Mad Lib wishcasting imaginings what would that even hypothetically be? Peels off his orange coat to reveal he’s really Barack Obama? He’s on a discovered trove of lost Epstein tapes? I can’t even think of anything.

Thanks for the response. About the sanctity of life issue and What Clinton said, I agree. But keep in mind those were Roe days. A lot of the debate back then was about federal funding of abortions (and I've never agreed with that). And just on the Libertarian piece: FTR I've voted 3rd party before, including state and local elections. And IMO some of the old GOP west swinging Dem in recent years has been about libertarians. - But more specifically, what you're saying is a little at cross odds. Because to me libertarianism would mean all persons (both genders) having a right over one's own medical treatment. In fact, to me, Roe, written by a Republican, is really (while maybe poorly written at times) a Libertarian masterpiece. It's saying you can look at the 9th Amendment, the 10th, the 1st, the 3rd, the 4th, 5th, whatever, however, we have a right to do what we want with our lives and physical bodies. Really they got into trouble with the use of the words "penumbra" and "right of privacy" which critics just constantly drove at with people who aren't geeks about law and language. Cheers.

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I heard this ‘if it’s a necessary medical procedure it’s not abortion’ argument while watching Congressional testimony a few months ago. It’s a totally new argument after 50 years of never making that distinction & the whole point is pushback on the political explosion that occurred. If what you were saying was the case there was never any point to the whole pro-life cause because the law in Roe already reflected that.

To call it a movement? Sure I guess, but it’s a legitimate term. I’d prefer they just form a new party or create a new name for the GOP but obviously they don’t have to.