IGotWorms

Like I said, only a dummy (apparently like Horseman) could not understand the implications

lol this from a Trumper? He was paying off pron stars while his wife was giving birth to their focking child

Those numbers are wrong/fake, of course

Yeah sorry, meant season 2. Haven’t seen 3

I’ll have to check out season 3. Season 4 was not great imo, but better than 3. I do like that Mahershala Ali fella

Alexandra Dadarrio

Private schools can do whatever they want. Loan caps for them and no loan forgiveness if you just went ahead and decided to do that AFTER public colleges are actually made affordable again

That’s interesting, but since when has anyone here given much of a sh1t about Brazilian politics? I don’t think it’s a conspiracy or anything

The Georgia stuff and fake elector schemes are part of the 1/6 federal charges

He’s right. Tough part is it’s not a message that will be well received by those who need to hear it. So how do you reach these Trumpers without just pushing them further off the deep end? That’s the question really no one has been able to answer. Maybe it can’t be done, I dunno

It’s like you didn’t read a word I’ve said.

Yeah sure bud, totally different

Yes, I agree, costs have to be brought under control. But there also needs to be more public funding, not in the form of loans (which only encourage cost increases, really), but in bringing down actual, necessary costs of higher education.

Funny you bring up the Hilary Clinton email server. Didn’t Trump say lock her up for that? Wasn't it basically a central mantra of his campaign? In fact, in a presidential debate, did he not say he would put Clinton in jail?? So yeah, cry me a river. Dude brought it all on himself. A different Republican I could agree.

lol, he’s a loser for arguing with you but you’re not for arguing with him? You can’t really be this dumb, right?

This link says $36,000 including on campus housing: https://admission.asu.edu/cost-aid/resident-first-year I’m sure scholarships and such help but that’s a pretty hefty starting point. And that’s just for the first year

It’s one of those things that’s illegal whether you can trace an actual loss or not. It’s to protect the integrity of the system which is important win or lose. That said, I am sure that many, many people do not prosecuted for this where they could. So I dunno, it is illegal and should be, but certainly Trump was targeted. Of course you do bring that on yourself being so high profile, and with Trump we’re talking higher dollar figures that many others, but then again only a fool would claim politics has nothing to do with it

Would it really “rip away access to IVF”? I find that hard to believe. But then again, who knows how far they want to go. Overturning Roe was just the beginning, there’s no doubt about that.

Temple is $20k per year and that doesn’t even include living expenses. Great on NY but they are the bluest or second bluest state in the country. If you think the rest of the country should look like that and have that tax burden, well I agree Though I’d point out that even there and even if your numbers are correct, that’s still $68k for four years. Not too horrible but if that’s the absolute best you’ve got… But the rest of the country should be like NY and SUNY. That would be a great start

Nope, wrong again. That’s you reflexively wanting to make the issue about people that made bad choices. Of course they are out there. But this isn’t really about middle class kids going to a private school they couldn’t afford (though I would like you to think about the implications of the best opportunities only being for those who are already rich). This is about the “safe” and “pragmatic” option — here being public colleges — becoming itself prohibitively expensive. If it costs $100k to go to a public school then you really can’t point the finger at students for failing to stick within their means. Which brings me to another point. I would argue it is perhaps a reasonable decision to take on more than you can afford to go to a ritzy private school. Either way you are in over your head with private school costs or public school costs. So why not go with the one that gives you the best chance for success? Its certainly at least an arguable strategy. So again, the issue is investing in public colleges. If private school costs $200k and public school is, say, $16,000 (inflation adjusted from 1970 costs), then you’d be an absolute idiot to choose private school in most circumstances. And the market would reflect that.

Nice try but no. Public colleges are where the real issue is. Private school has always been comparatively expensive. If somebody picks that without a real plan for making it worthwhile, that’s on them. But public higher ed was supposed to be affordable

Some of it is poor planning for sure, but you also have to remember that these folks were told college was a golden ticket and you figure it out later. Which I think is still true, btw. Even those baristas a couple years out probably eventually made their way into at least a halfway-decent job. Especially in this economy. But the value proposition isn’t what it used to be with college costing an average of $100k now instead of a couple grand in 1970

I know you stand by it, because you’re an assh0le. Like I said, time to go