jerryskids

I'm good. Surviving cancer despite the odds. Glad to see you back.

Here is what I've put in the summary post on the first page so far: I am surprised the last one hasn't been mentioned yet, I added that. Feel free to discuss any on these, or introduce a new, rational concern.

Hope all is well. You still in eastern AZ?

Sorry Strike, but I don't find this to be in the spirit of my post.

Most of you folks are not following the spirit of my intention in this thread. @thegeneral provided a few good examples: - Mass deportation - Elon's streamlining of government (I have concerns here as well) and there were one or two others. I put the tag on the thread because I'm not looking for the typical partisan stuff like or any other number of posts from folks in this thread that, frankly, disappointed me. I would like to use this victory as an opportunity to get to a bipartisan vision forward for this county.

Reasonable concerns: - Tariffs -- If implemented as Trump has stated, would probably cause a mass disruption in our supply chain and prices. - Mass deportation -- Also a mass disruption, economic issues with losing workers, civil rights concerns. - Elon streamlining government -- Could introduce a huge number of (former) government employees into the workforce, many of which may not have (government) skills which easily translate to the civilian workplace. - RFK's influence on health agencies -- Same as above. - End of gender affirming care -- I'm not really sure how this would manifest, for adults anyway. I could see laws against medically transing kids, which I (and most rational people) would view as a good thing, but some like @squistionmight view that as a negative. - End of naturalized citizenship for Dreamers -- Highly unlikely as it is specifically enumerated in the Constitution. I might remove this one. - Environment and climate change efforts -- Trump has vowed to "drill baby drill" which, along with a general disinterest in pursuing green initiatives, makes it likely that we'll invest less in this area. - Abortion -- Long shot that Congress would propose a ban, Trump would sign it, and SCOTUS would approve it - SCOTUS -- Trump could potentially set 2 or 3 more conservative justices on the bench, securing a conservative court for decades to come. - Removal of licenses from media companies -- I don't know much about this, but OK - Some Trump appointees generate reasonable concerns. Gaetz for AG in particular is concerning given, if nothing else, his resignation prior to the release of the investigation into his potential inappropriate conduct with a 17 yr old. RFKJ, while having valid criticisms of the status quo, may go too far as head of HHS. Tom Homan is, to put it lightly, a no-nonsense border czar who has no qualms about separating families, or shipping out entire families, some of whom may be Dreamers. There are others: if anyone wants to specifically call them out, reply as such.

Congrats to her on getting the funding to continue pursuing this! As for the makeup thing, she's cute enough, but she's behind the big fake check in most of them (looks good in the one with the side pic tho). I presume I commented on her looks during the olympics?

Also @TimHauck, much was made about the huge improvement from the Repubs in their registration and "get out the vote" efforts. So I would expect more votes on the Repub side, anyway. To me, the interesting thing in the end will be the vote differences per state, or maybe even districts within states. I wouldn't expect much of a vote dump in, say, California which the Dems will definitely win. But if there are statistically significant reduction this time around only in swing states, and/or within specific districts in those states... then I'm interested.

Wut? You are all over the place here Hoax? Your estimate? I agree with waiting until all the votes come in before issuing indictments but... what does that have to do with the cell phone data?

Of course I like you! Also, my wife is leaving tomorrow for 5 days to see her mother. If you want to fly to Phoenix and make me dinners while she's gone, I'll like you even more!

The basic problem is a combination of (1) we accept absentee/mail-in ballots day-of drop-off, and (2) we do hand signature verification.

Don't get me started... We just elected a new Recorder -- Justin Heap, local boy and former star ASU (and Ravens) TE. He seems serious, and I hope he fixes this clown show.

I believe Hunter Biden will leave the country... to somewhere without extradition to the US.

Don't worry, you are our special Cali hoe. It was an opossum!

This is a wonderful read from the (female) founder of Quillette, a zine from Australia. @The Real timschochet, you might find this interesting because at the end she ties it to a very Ayn Rand-like, think "prime movers". https://quillette.com/2024/11/06/the-revenge-of-the-silent-male-voter-trump-vance-musk/

Thanks, great post yourself! I love your description of the identity politics.

It was a factor.

You sound like my GenZ daughter who gets all her news from Tik Tok. Is that you, honey?

Ducey was the founder of Cold Stone Creamery, so he has business experience as well. He's conservative, but seemed able to reach across the aisle and get stuff done. He's only out because he reached his term limit. The only "problem" is that he is not a rah-rah guy, he's pretty reserved.

Don't get me wrong, I like Vance. But I'm not all in on him yet. I want to see how his 4 years go. Four years of learning on the job is good, if he's good at it and does stuff. Kamala had four years on the job, and did nothing. I don't want a geriatric candidate, more like someone in their 50s ideally. In private industry, a 40-something rarely runs a major corporation unless (1) he founded it, or (2) he was a superstar who skyrocketed his way up there. Also I tend to prefer governors because they have actually run a major government entity. That would include Desantis, Haley, and (I'd love him to get involved) Doug Ducey, our former governor in AZ. I wasn't a fan of Obama with his experience of one senate term of mostly "present" votes, and community organizing. Although in fairness, the country ran fine under him.

I was going to say "not 100%", but then you basically did in your next post.

I dunno... in 2016 the leftie pseuds who run the party thought they lost because half of the country is racist misogynist nazis. Eight years later, I'm confident they think the same thing. They seem incapable of introspection, unable to understand why everyone doesn't sign up for the party of high inflation, transing kids, boys in girls sports, wide open borders, muslim terrorists, and free stuff instead of meaningful jobs. Hopefully they prove me wrong. On the Right, obviously it will be viewed as validation -- victory always is. I wonder what will happen in 4 years. My fear is that our candidate will be somebody basically appointed by Trump, who will try to be Trumpian, not realizing that only Trump can be Trump. Someone like Desantis, Haley, Gabbard would be great. Vance I think would govern less MAGA-ish, but we'll see how the next 4 years go. Also he is quite young.

Good morning all! Did I miss anything?

Yeah, they talked about obscure AZ counties. Seemed weird, as a resident here.