jerryskids

Fair point, I apologize. Care to tell me why you think abortion, or maybe a more general "reproductive rights," is a reasonable concern, and how it might be different under Trump vs. Harris?

Can you blame him? When he pays celebrities, they charge him with 34 felonies! :rimshot:

Here is what I have so far: Reasonable concerns: - Tariffs -- If implemented as Trump has stated, would probably cause a mass disruption in our supply chain and prices. - Mass deportation -- Also a mass disruption, economic issues with losing workers, civil rights concerns. - Elon streamlining government -- Could introduce a huge number of (former) government employees into the workforce, many of which may not have (government) skills which easily translate to the civilian workplace. - RFK's influence on health agencies -- Same as above. - End of gender affirming care -- I'm not really sure how this would manifest, for adults anyway. I could see laws against medically transing kids, which I (and most rational people) would view as a good thing, but some like @squistionmight view that as a negative. - End of naturalized citizenship for Dreamers -- Highly unlikely as it is specifically enumerated in the Constitution. I might remove this one. - Environment and climate change efforts -- Trump has vowed to "drill baby drill" which, along with a general disinterest in pursuing green initiatives, makes it likely that we'll invest less in this area. - Abortion -- Waiting for Rusty / @Death to tell me why this is a reasonable concern for the POTUS election. - SCOTUS -- Trump could potentially set 2 or 3 more conservative justices on the bench, securing a conservative court for decades to come.

I love your Tia Lupe example. AZ could declare itself an extradition state, and set up buses for folks who would prefer to go to Cali. Regarding abortion: My idea with this thread is to determine reasonable topics that TDS folks like yourself might fear. I don't find abortion to be one of those, as Trump has never supported a federal ban and has said he won't this time around. Before I add it to the list, convince me that abortion under Trump will be different than it would have been under Harris.

I'm not gay, dummy. I'm just pointing out that you don't know scripture as well as you think. Amen thanks.

I dunno... NY took some mislabeling of 8 yr old payout checks to a pron star, tacked on a bogus election interference charge to turn them into felonies in the first way ever, and managed to lawfare the Republican candidate for POTUS. Simps brag about "34 felonies" like Trump is a serial killer. I'm confident that the feds can turn this person's behavior into a crime.

Neckcar is here in Phoenix this weekend. The track isn't very far from the Cardinals' stadium, and I'd need to drive past it to get home. Thank gawd I don't have tix for tomorrow vs. the Jets, that freeway is going to be a sh1t show.

Is this dood married to Gloria?

That's about gays. Trump isn't gay. Indeed amen thanks.

Majority decision written by Justice Kamala Harris on a complex case: "I was born in the middle class... 32... 32... thirty... two...

I'm OK with this assessment I guess. Rusty used to post hilarious stories about idiots calling the newsroom, writing checks for pizza, and the trials of hurricanes that his Buttmont, TX. Gutter I concede was always an ass, but he was also funny. He had some great aliases, including Mrs. Voltaire, which is one of my all-time favorites. Like Volty said, they are part of the fabric of this place. You can't write the history of FFT without them.

Gen X pushed Trump over the top. What's special about us? We're the parents of most of the school-aged children. We don't want our young men being vilified for doing assertive masculine things, calling it "toxic masculinity." Young men are lost in our society; much has been written about it. (As a side note, this is why young men also voted for Trump. Dood took a bullet in the ear and pumped his fist in defiance. That's badass. That's masculine.) We don't want our teenage girls, confused by the flood of hormones and attention from the boys, to be told that maybe they are boys -- here, take some testosterone, which duh, makes you more assertive and confident. We don't want our elementary school kids to have to declare their pronouns or gender preference. We don't want them learning about gay sex acts or going to drag story hour. If they tell a teacher that they think they are the other sex, we demand to know. If you have kids, you understand this.

I'm really surprised that Mike perma-banned the Rusty and Gutter handles. Before they got stage 4 TDS, they were two of the better posters on this bored for a long time.

Ahwatukee. Although I spend a lot of time at the ASU Downtown Phoenix dorms. @Bier Meister

You may not like Ben Shapiro's politics, but he is a devout religious person with a high level of integrity. While they certainly report things with a conservative spin when possible, I highly doubt he would put his name behind a news agency that intentionally lied, certainly about something like this. No it doesn't. "FEMA aid workers skipped houses with Trump signs."

No, but I'll expand on that later. I would think you'd need to be convicted, not just arrested. Also, one possible unintended consequence of this is that some jurisdictions will just flat out not arrest, and certainly not convict, illegal aliens. I think we already see this to some extent. It would get worse. Environment is a good one, I'll add that to the list.

Sorry, I missed his the first time thru. Will add to the list. Not sure about this but I'll add it. Great one! I was going to add this later; great minds think alike.

I'm good. Surviving cancer despite the odds. Glad to see you back.

Here is what I've put in the summary post on the first page so far: I am surprised the last one hasn't been mentioned yet, I added that. Feel free to discuss any on these, or introduce a new, rational concern.

Hope all is well. You still in eastern AZ?

Sorry Strike, but I don't find this to be in the spirit of my post.

Most of you folks are not following the spirit of my intention in this thread. @thegeneral provided a few good examples: - Mass deportation - Elon's streamlining of government (I have concerns here as well) and there were one or two others. I put the tag on the thread because I'm not looking for the typical partisan stuff like or any other number of posts from folks in this thread that, frankly, disappointed me. I would like to use this victory as an opportunity to get to a bipartisan vision forward for this county.

Reasonable concerns: - Tariffs -- If implemented as Trump has stated, would probably cause a mass disruption in our supply chain and prices. - Mass deportation -- Also a mass disruption, economic issues with losing workers, civil rights concerns. - Elon streamlining government -- Could introduce a huge number of (former) government employees into the workforce, many of which may not have (government) skills which easily translate to the civilian workplace. - RFK's influence on health agencies -- Same as above. - End of gender affirming care -- I'm not really sure how this would manifest, for adults anyway. I could see laws against medically transing kids, which I (and most rational people) would view as a good thing, but some like @squistionmight view that as a negative. - End of naturalized citizenship for Dreamers -- Highly unlikely as it is specifically enumerated in the Constitution. I might remove this one. - Environment and climate change efforts -- Trump has vowed to "drill baby drill" which, along with a general disinterest in pursuing green initiatives, makes it likely that we'll invest less in this area. - Abortion -- Long shot that Congress would propose a ban, Trump would sign it, and SCOTUS would approve it - SCOTUS -- Trump could potentially set 2 or 3 more conservative justices on the bench, securing a conservative court for decades to come. - Removal of licenses from media companies -- I don't know much about this, but OK - Some Trump appointees generate reasonable concerns. Gaetz for AG in particular is concerning given, if nothing else, his resignation prior to the release of the investigation into his potential inappropriate conduct with a 17 yr old. RFKJ, while having valid criticisms of the status quo, may go too far as head of HHS. Tom Homan is, to put it lightly, a no-nonsense border czar who has no qualms about separating families, or shipping out entire families, some of whom may be Dreamers. There are others: if anyone wants to specifically call them out, reply as such.

Congrats to her on getting the funding to continue pursuing this! As for the makeup thing, she's cute enough, but she's behind the big fake check in most of them (looks good in the one with the side pic tho). I presume I commented on her looks during the olympics?

Also @TimHauck, much was made about the huge improvement from the Repubs in their registration and "get out the vote" efforts. So I would expect more votes on the Repub side, anyway. To me, the interesting thing in the end will be the vote differences per state, or maybe even districts within states. I wouldn't expect much of a vote dump in, say, California which the Dems will definitely win. But if there are statistically significant reduction this time around only in swing states, and/or within specific districts in those states... then I'm interested.