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Well, I for one am glad I took the time on a Saturday morning to explain my position. Derp away, Slingblade. Remember, you meant well!

I very much prefer parents make such decisions vs. lawmakers, but there needs to be a guardrail. We wouldn't let a parent starve a child to death in belief that it would cure an illness, for instance. But wait, you say, transing the kids is supported by the medical community! This is where I explain my model of the medical community. One, doctors are neither omniscient nor infallible. I learned this as a young adult, and have debated with doctors throughout my life, including my cancer journey, on care decisions. Two, I've worked with many people with advanced degrees, and regardless of the field, the following is true: the higher the degree, the more they will defer to their peers in adjacent fields. An orthopedic surgeon will absolutely defer to a urologist on urology issues -- after all, he wouldn't want a urologist telling him how to handle a knee surgery. This is how we get statements like "the medical community" supports it -- most doctors are just defering to... ... transgender care doctors. The problem with this is that everyone who enters the field is biased towards believing children and helping them on their trans journey. After all, that's why they entered the field and work with such kids, right? So there is an inherent systemic bias. Then there is the whole discussion of social contagion (which absolutely has happened) and woke pressure (which influences lobbying groups like the AMA and APA). By the way, when I hear the phrase "gender affirming care" to describe mutilating children, I want to club a baby seal with a puppy. It disgusts me that the left conflates therapy with mutilation. What you are describing is, at its kindest, gender changing care, and more accurately, gender destroying care. Europe led the way in transing the kids, and we followed like good little Leftie lemmings. Europe has now seen the error of its ways, but we're not quite ready to give up our woke position on this. Some day we will look back on this time in horror at the way we abused our young people in the name of social justice points. As I told Real Tim when we had this discussion, when that day occurs, Lefties will just say "oh well, we meant well!" That is the nice thing about Leftism -- you can pave a lot of roads to hell with your good intentions. I'll skip your abortion strawman for now, to not dilute the discussion even more.

Sorry Tim, you hate your own people. IDF is comprised of Jewish people, and you believe that running over people on the side of the road is the rule and not the exception. So you think a majority of the Jewish people in IDF do that, or at least would. Just own it. Embrace the fact that you hate all of the evil Jews fighting the righteous Hamas patriots. I think you'll find it liberating.

Parents knowing how their children are presenting, and parents choosing to medically mutilate their children, are not the same.

Tim is allergic to talking about Hamas. When he does it, he uses as few words as possible, followed by a "but..." Something like, "yes Hamas is terrorist but..." It's as if every word he spends on it would make him face reality.

Charged him? They're at war with Hamas. Should they send him back so that he can grab a gun or strap on a bomb this time? Now show your posts with your outrage at how Hamas treated the hostages they had. Was this kid treated as poorly? Worse? I'll wait and see what happens to the reservist. If all he gets is 5 days house arrest, I'll agree. "Rogue" lol... I sometimes forget you are 12 emotionally. Imagine hating your own people so much that you think running over people on the side of the road is your people's rule and not exception. You are severely broken, Tim. Seriously, talk to somebody.

Somebody broke Tim. I'm glad I had family to spend the past few days with. They're not children, dope. They're 15-16 year olds, which in Gaza is a full fledged Hamas terrorist age. And you punish the behavior, not the result. That's terrible. Also, it was a rogue bad apple. Do you even read your own links? Seek help. Also, Merry Christmas.

FWIW, I've never been a Murka-only isolationist. I happily support the destruction of Hamas and Boko Haram, because I realize that there is evil in the world, and that the world is a better place without that evil.

I know to you that such centrist sources should be sufficient, but I'm more discerning. Enough of your red herring. Tell me how you disagree with my summary.

I have indeed used AI before. It's a useful tool. It provides the links from which it sourced its answer. In this case the links included Al Jazeera, PBS, and CNN, all with some version of "it's nuanced!" If instead the links are from a variety of sources, or if the summary isn't particularly politically biased, it's easier to just use it. HTH with your whataboutism.

He said senseless killing. Perhaps you meant Hamas, which hides under schools, churches, and hospitals when they aren't raping and burning innocent women and children. But... IDF killed a journalist who might not have been working with Hamas. And blew up an ambulance. It's the same! Moral equivalency!

I learned from AI which learned from Al Jazeera that while Boko Haram often targets Christians for mass genocide, they also occasionally kill Muslims too, so it is complex and nuanced! and the affects both, so it is the same! also Trumpf!

Gutter only has one religion, and it's TDS.

We mostly do my (Polish) family traditions. For Christmas Eve my grandma made a bunch of fish, although I don't recall it having the "seven fishes" name. Some whitefish, some disgusting things like pickled herring. After she passed the family kept the tradition, except somebody one year said "you know, lobster is fish!" We're actually having that tonight instead of yesterday (mentioned in another thread that we celebrated Christmas yesterday). We did our typical Christmas day late lunch yesterday for dinner: honey baked ham, fresh kielbasa, homemade pierogi with sauteed onions, homemade paska bread (or challa, it's an egg bread), green bean casserole. From my wife's family side we add "Grammy's mustard sauce" which has mustard, sugar, egg yolks... good stuff. My wife made farmer's cheese for the pierogi, and my daughters helped make them and cook them. I don't want to jinx them for the future, but they've nailed the technique: not a one came apart in boiling, and they tasted delicious!

Man, this is hilarious! Happy belated Hannukah, Tim.

We celebrated Christmas yesterday because my son is going to his GF's family today, and they live in the sticks (cactus?) north of Phoenix metro. Wife and two daughters are heading to the 10:30 Mass, then going bowling for lunch. Hopefully the rain will be done and we can break out my new cornhole set (my big Christmas gift). Merry Christmas, fellow l5s3rs!

Has nothing to do with God per se. "Religion" is more than just belief in God; it comprises an overall culture. As I've said numerous times, I know and like many individual Muslims. But I can also recognize that the many Islamic cultures which treat women like animals and stone LGBTQ folks to death are morally inferior to Western Judeo-Christian cultures. Other major religions like Hindu and Buddhism don't have this problem. Islam is the only one. It must be nice going through life with that dullard smile, believing in moral relativism. One religious culture protests women who kill their unborn children, another stones women for getting raped. It's the same! Anyway, Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas to all! Also, welcome back @Strike!

I don't think you are wrong, and I'm not saying Jim Beam did anything wrong. Sometimes the environment changes. In this case, Canada chose to stall imports due to American tariffs, which impacted JB sales. My point is that instead of focusing on how higher inventory should lead to lower prices for Americans, Gutter chooses to focus on how a Japanese conglomerate will lose money. Because he has TDS.

Thanks! I'd like to thank my dad, who paid the cable guy under the table in the 80s to let us descramble HBO on the box and watch movies... Seriously, this was a lot of fun. Thanks @BiffTannen for all your work in running such a smooth draft.

She's not Muslim, she is Hindu. You should have just said she is not Christian, which is really what you meant.

How could I forget? Those are the same! Sorry, still stupid. Even Moderate Tim is not supporting you. Although that being said: Thanks for the laugh.

Great point. I'm sure a financial tycoon like gutter realizes that higher inventory (supply) drives down prices, which helps with the new buzz word du jour from the Mamdani worshipers -- affordability! But gutter is too busy with his TDS DEFCON -1. He'd prefer a Japanese global conglomerate get higher profits than Americans improve affordability, if it makes the OMB look bad. He's not a true American.

You'd have an idea if you bothered to read what I posted. But thanks for the red herring about RFK Jr.

MAGA voted to pardon someone whose son did something? What does this have to do with the pardon? You've got TDS bad.